Suggestion for tracking forum

Puccini · Jun 29, 2006

This has probably been addressed before, but why does the tracking forum accept bets that are more than 1 unit per bet?

I've followed a lot of cappers on these boards, and frankly, just because a capper says he's up 50 or 100 units on the year doesn't mean much when you consider that his bets are 3-5 units each. He has a few bad days and suddenly he's in the red--after being up 50 units!

Betting multiple units is fine for the main boards, but there should be a place--i.e., the tracker forum--where reality exists and everything is equal. Then you'd really see who the top cappers were.

Also, you'd see that some of those cappers who seem to be doing so badly (because they're betting 3-5 units a game!) aren't that bad after all.

I suspect that it's not done this way because it would be a reality check (and sports books foot the bills for these sites). If you're going to win 150 units a season you'd better be prepared to lose 150 units a seaon as well.

RobFunk · Jun 29, 2006

Hello Puccini.

The record is there for you to see. There is a 5 unit max.

You have to allow cappers to differentiate their stronger plays from just their normal ones.

Puccini · Jun 29, 2006

I'm not claiming there's any kind of deception in the tracker forum, just that I wish there was a place where cappers would be forced to place 1 unit per 1 bet.

I thing the results would be revealing.

gynecologist · Jun 29, 2006

Alot of people would tell you that some plays merit a wager over one unit.
Let me ask you Puccini? Even if you really love a game your suppose to bet the same amount on it, as you would a game that you felt less confident
about?

Puccini · Jun 30, 2006

Ultimately, records are determined by the bigger-sized wagers. Why not just post those? In other words, leave out the smaller wagers.

For example, handicapper A has won 20-something units this season--totally flat betting. Handicapper B is around 35 units or so, but his wagers tend to be in the 2-4 unit range, or more. So that 30 units is really more like 15 units at best. Who's been the better handicapper so far this season?

I'm not saying I'd like it one way or the other. Just that it would be instructive to have a place where flat betting was the rule.

gynecologist · Jun 30, 2006

I understand what you are saying totally. But it would be unfair for
the cappers that pick their spots. Like ACE-ACE for example. He
posts $100 plays one day and the next a $700 one or more. I do
see what you are saying though. Its a catch 22

JOH · Jun 30, 2006

If you're looking for someone to fade, check me out in the tracker forum. Whether it's flat betting or multi-unit wagering, I'm your man. The stats are all there.

bullets · Jun 30, 2006

Puccini,

In a way, I agree with you.

On the tracker forum, I was once up 50 units and then down 28 units within a month. I am now up about 10 again. I bet almost all 5 unit plays because that is the amount I normally bet on MLB, give or take a few other plays.

I follow Skins and he bets straight 1 unit plays and is very consistent. He might win alot more games than me but, with my "larger unit size":missingte I will show a bigger profit.

The best thing to do IMO, is set your own unit size and follow it.

TTinCO · Jun 30, 2006

Puccini said:
Ultimately, records are determined by the bigger-sized wagers. Why not just post those? In other words, leave out the smaller wagers.

If you're playing on a 1-3 or 1-5 unit scale(Ideal, IMO), those smaller plays are often the difference between a + or - day.

Also, if you're posting all the plays you actually bet & want to make it easy (Keep one result set), that wouldn't be possible.

wilheim · Jun 30, 2006

The original Tracker Forum concept was to allow cappers to place a weight on selections in one form or another. Most cappers do like some selections more than others and we felt the Tracker Forum needed to allow cappers to indicate how strongly they felt about specific selections.

We settled on assigning units to plays, so the cappers could be tracked as plus or minus however many units according to their weighted (by units) selections.

wil.

heart222 · Jun 30, 2006

as the original poster suggested the differance may be in the risk level. Or how much more risk do you have to take to win 1 unit additional. i guess he could follow the posters at the bod play of the day contest and follow the leaders. someone is plus 20 for the season. i know istarted out 15-1 and then collapsed but am still ahead about 8 units. that may be an easier way to go and if several leadersare on the same team that migtht be a thought. good luck. heart222

SkinsRaj28 · Jun 30, 2006

bullets said:
I follow Skins and he bets straight 1 unit plays and is very consistent. He might win alot more games than me but, with my "larger unit size":missingte I will show a bigger profit.

You're right, my unit is much smaller. Er, I mean units. :realtongu

Hope you've been fading me for the past week or so man...woulda picked up some nice coin. Thanks for the compliment, though.

As for the tracker forum comment, limiting all plays to just one unit isn't realistic because not everyone bets the same amount on each play. Sometimes they feel stronger about a particular play and will bet more units...so the record SHOULD reflect that. Not everyone's betting style is the same.

It's just a matter of doing a little more HW as opposed to just looking strictly at the record, that's all.

Heatwave · Jun 30, 2006

A simple ROI calculation included in the spreadsheet would take care of the problems.

I know that would take more work for the moderators, and I am pretty sure that the tracking forum is enough work the way it is...however, that would give a little more insight to the records.

One of the great things about the Rx is that particular forum - a one stop shop for followers and faders.

HW

PokerKingJim · Jun 30, 2006

The worst is when somebody bets 5 units on every single game

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