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Federer to win 3-0 over Bjorkman -NO +510, this means that a grass guy like Jonas Bjorkman only has to win 1 out of 15 sets to show a profit, sign me up for that one.
 

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Railbird said:
Federer to win 3-0 over Bjorkman -NO +510, this means that a grass guy like Jonas Bjorkman only has to win 1 out of 15 sets to show a profit, sign me up for that one.

Thanks for the play. Jonas Bjorkman bearly won yesterday.

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TrueAirgo said:
Thanks for the play. Jonas Bjorkman bearly won yesterday.

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Correction on: barely

Thanks for the play. Jonas Bjorkman barely won yesterday.
 

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disagree with the play. Roger is on fire, has not dropped a set Vs quality opponents in Gasquet (won a grass tune-up tourney) Berdych and Ancic (likely his biggest threat left standing, and he beats him in straights). Roger can become the first man since Borg in '76 to win Wimbledon without dropping a set. Jonas' serve is avearge at best.

i'll be stunned if Jonas takes a set off him. Having said that, no doubt there is great 'value' at +510 to win 1 set. The Jonas is a great volleyer and in terrific, out-of-skin form. His last two matches have gone the distance, 5 sets, and last 3 of 4!! Jonas also plays doubles. WILL the 34 yr old have anything left in the tank Vs World number 1?

gl with the play

Roger is relishing a potenetial meeting with Nadal in the finals.......oh dear, PAYBACKVILLE.
 

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i dont think railbird understands this play. a set is 6 games. he has to win a set against federer for him to win the play. nobody has won a set off federer yet.
 

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nah- i think he understands the bet...

what I think he is saying is....since Federer is 15-0 in sets already...you're getting +500 value, for Federer eventually to lose a set, aka 'due' factor. I think thats what he meant by saying to win 1 of 15 sets.

I personally dont see it happening...but its a +500 bet...nothing he'll be panicing over and he sees value. Bjorkman has te be getting fatigued & fedex on top of his game...i see straight sets, but then again- I wouldnt lay the juice on it.
 

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SportSavant said:
what do you mean when you say he only has to win 1 of 15 sets?

In the long run, because it's 1 out of 3 with +510 odds - so it's like he has to win one set out of 15.3 (3 x 5.1) sets to break even. The problem is that he doesn't get to make this play 5 times and hope to win once, so ...
 

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i think the better play is fed -453, instead of laying -6000 for moneyline or bjorkman +500
 

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dr03 said:
i think the better play is fed -453, instead of laying -6000 for moneyline or bjorkman +500

Disagree. If Federer loses concentration and focus for 20 minutes, he can lose two service games and go down a set. He will come back, and won't be worried about a 3-1 win.

If we assume that the probability of Federer winning each set is 90%, there is a 28% chance that Bjorkman wins one of of the first three sets. A 28% chance at +510 seems very decent - and that doesn't even consider the fact that one can get bored, lose concentration, or try to conserve energy.
 

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Hope 1 said:
disagree with the play. Roger is on fire, has not dropped a set Vs quality opponents in Gasquet (won a grass tune-up tourney) Berdych and Ancic (likely his biggest threat left standing, and he beats him in straights). Roger can become the first man since Borg in '76 to win Wimbledon without dropping a set. Jonas' serve is avearge at best.

i'll be stunned if Jonas takes a set off him. Having said that, no doubt there is great 'value' at +510 to win 1 set. The Jonas is a great volleyer and in terrific, out-of-skin form. His last two matches have gone the distance, 5 sets, and last 3 of 4!! Jonas also plays doubles. WILL the 34 yr old have anything left in the tank Vs World number 1?

gl with the play

Roger is relishing a potenetial meeting with Nadal in the finals.......oh dear, PAYBACKVILLE.

You disagree with the play, but say there is great value in the play. Makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.
 

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Federer has to only lose 1 set for the +510 bet to win. There are 3 sets in a game, so this +510 bet is really like taking a +100 bet that Federer won't lose a single set if he played 15 consecutively. Unless i made a mistake somewhere?
 

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levistep said:
Federer has to only lose 1 set for the +510 bet to win. There are 3 sets in a game, so this +510 bet is really like taking a +100 bet that Federer won't lose a single set if he played 15 consecutively. Unless i made a mistake somewhere?
No you are correct. Except where you say there are 3 sets in a game, you mean there are 3 sets in a match. There are 6 games in a set, and the match is best of 5 sets (first one to 3). But your math is correct.
 
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levistep said:
Federer has to only lose 1 set for the +510 bet to win. There are 3 sets in a game, so this +510 bet is really like taking a +100 bet that Federer won't lose a single set if he played 15 consecutively. Unless i made a mistake somewhere?

The whole event in tennis is called a "match". In tennis a "game" is
merely a subset {a portion} of a "set". Federer might win a set by
6 games to 4. And a match by 3 sets to 1. At Wimbleton men's
singles matches are best of five sets, women's singles best of 3.
 
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HarryCaray said:
There are 6 games in a set, and the match is best of 5 sets (first one to 3).

There would be six games in a set only if one player won 6-0,
assuming that the set is completed. If one player won the set
6 games to 3 then there would be 9 games in that set.
 
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X-Files said:
The whole event in tennis is called a "match". In tennis a "game" is
merely a subset {a portion} of a "set". Federer might win a set by
6 games to 4. And a match by 3 sets to 1. At Wimbleton men's
singles matches are best of five sets, women's singles best of 3.

By "whole event" i am referring to one head to head in singles
between two players opposing one another.
 

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royalfan said:
You disagree with the play, but say there is great value in the play. Makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.

damn i thought i was crystal clear, i'll try again. I DISAGREE with the play (reasoning was explained already), i think Fed wins in 3.

for 'value' players, and folks thast MUST have a play on this particular play, the 'value' lays in Jonas at +510 to take 1 set. It's a no play for me cause the comebacks juice is insane and i dont play those kinds of lines on tennis, never

does that make nore sense.


I was just giving my 2-cents here as no one had done any analysis/quirp into this play. I'm a tennis capper, doesn't seem this sport is covered much at Rx. Why?
 

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X-Files said:
There would be six games in a set only if one player won 6-0,
assuming that the set is completed. If one player won the set
6 games to 3 then there would be 9 games in that set.

OK smartass, you know what I meant, first one to 6 (or 7 if necessary)
 

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levistep said:
Federer has to only lose 1 set for the +510 bet to win. There are 3 sets in a game, so this +510 bet is really like taking a +100 bet that Federer won't lose a single set if he played 15 consecutively. Unless i made a mistake somewhere?

wrong and yes, lol. Your first statement is correct, have no idea what the remaining is

this is a Grand Slam, its best of five. The first player to win 3 sets wins the match. The bet is that Jonas WILL WIN 1 set. That's all he has to do win one set---ie., he CANNOT LOSE IN STRAIGHTS

example; Federer wins 6-3,6-2,7-6

the play loses, as Jonas did not win one set

example 2-- Federer wins 6-3,3-6,6-2,7-6
the play is a winner, Jonas won the second set
 

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