Online wagering under attack in Congress

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Yesterday i went 11-0 on all my wagers, got laid, had a bbq, got some nice waves...then today i woke up with a twitch in my left eye, my computer is infected, and now Yahoo! has an article on the ban of online wagering (and yahoo! only has articles when certain issues that are pretty much close to being over with)...i knew that this day was bound to happen...here's the article though:


By NANCY ZUCKERBROD, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 16 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - Gamblers who prefer their laptops to blackjack tables won't like what Congress is doing. On Tuesday, the House plans to vote on a bill that would ban credit cards for paying online bets and could padlock gambling Web sites.
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The legislation would clarify existing law to spell out that it is illegal to gamble online.

To enforce that ban, the bill would prohibit credit cards and other payment forms, such as electronic transfers, from being used to settle online wagers. It also would give law enforcement officials the authority to work with Internet providers to block access to gambling Web sites.
Some opponents of the legislation say policing the Internet is impossible, that it would be better to regulate the $12 billion industry and collect taxes from it. The online gambling industry is based almost entirely outside the United States, though about half its customers live in the U.S.
Other critics complain that the bill doesn't cover all forms of gambling. They point to exemptions they say would allow online lotteries and Internet betting on horse racing to flourish.

"If you're going to support legislation that is supposed to 'prohibit gambling,' you should not have carve-outs," said Andrea Lafferty, executive director of the conservative Traditional Values Coalition.
Other conservative and antigambling groups are supporting the legislation, sponsored by Reps. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and Jim Leach, R-Iowa.
John Kindt, a business professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign who has studied the issue, calls the Internet "the crack cocaine" of gambling.

"There are no needle marks. There's no alcohol on the breath. You just click the mouse and lose your house," he said.

Congress has considered similar bills several times before. In 2000, disgraced lobbyist Jack Ambramoff led a fierce campaign against it on behalf of an online lottery company.

Online lotteries are allowed in the latest bill, largely at the behest of states that increasingly rely on lotteries to augment tax revenues.
Pro-sports leagues also like the bill, arguing that Web wagering could hurt the integrity of their sports.

The horse racing industry also supports the bill because of the exemption it would get. Betting operators would not be prohibited from any activity allowed under the Internet Horseracing Act. That law written in the 1970s set up rules for interstate betting on racing. It was updated a few years ago to clarify that betting on horse racing over the Internet is allowed.
Greg Avioli, chief executive officer of the National Thoroughbred Racing Association, said the mention of horse racing in the bill is "a recognition of existing federal law," not a new carve-out.

He said the racing industry has a strong future in the digital age and acknowledged the bill would send Internet gamblers to racing sites. "They'd return to the one place they can bet legally," Avioli said.
That's what some critics say is unfair.

"Somehow we find ourselves in a situation where Congress has gotten in the business of cherry-picking types of gambling," complained Rep. Robert Wexler (news, bio, voting record), D-Fla. Wexler had tried unsuccessfully to include exemptions for dog racing and jai alai, both popular in Florida.

The Justice Department has taken a different view on the legality of Internet betting on horse races. In a World Trade Organization case involving Antigua, the department said online betting on horse racing remains illegal under the 1961 Wire Act despite the existence of the more recently passed Interstate Horseracing Act.

The department hasn't actively enforced its stance, but observers say it is possible the agency and the racing industry could face off in court in the future.
Sen. Jon Kyl (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., is leading support for the ban in the Senate. The issue has so far not been debated in that chamber this year.

The bill is H.R.4411
 

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The wording is interesting.

"from being used to settle online wagers"

When you deposit, you are not 'settling' an online wager. you are just giving yourself available wagering funds.
 

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John Kindt, a business professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign who has studied the issue, calls the Internet "the crack cocaine" of gambling.

"There are no needle marks. There's no alcohol on the breath. You just click the mouse and lose your house," he said


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What kills me about these Republicans is there bullshit.

Many have or either fought their asses off to get slots in their states so they could have an enormous budget to work with while in office.

i.e. Erlich in MD has wanted slots more than anything(REPUBLICAN) im sure he supports this bill


BUT when it comes to state lottery ; its all good right. get the fuck out of here

You can spend thousands of dollars on lotteries and scratch off just like online gaming.


Im so sick of this bullshit. America has many freedoms, but the decision on how you spend your own money isn't up to you.



CHILD MOLESTERS/TERRORISTS= ONLINE GAMBLERS ?????


Im steamed about this SHIT!
 

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What kills me about these Republicans is there bullshit.

Many have or either fought their asses off to get slots in their states so they could have an enormous budget to work with while in office.

i.e. Erlich in MD has wanted slots more than anything(REPUBLICAN) im sure he supports this bill


BUT when it comes to state lottery ; its all good right. get the fuck out of here

You can spend thousands of dollars on lotteries and scratch off just like online gaming.


Im so sick of this bullshit. America has many freedom, but the decision on how you spend your own money isn't up to you.



CHILD MOLESTERS/TERRORISTS= ONLINE GAMBLERS ?????


Im steamed about this SHIT!


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not to worry the senate isnt about to go near that stuff. my friends on capital hill tell me not to worry. heart222
 

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Fishhead said:
"There are no needle marks. There's no alcohol on the breath. You just click the mouse and lose your house," he said

this is meant to be a hobby...and if you arent good at it, you shouldnt risk your house!

actually the people that risk their house are the people that still believe in the "american dream" which should be eliminated from everyones vocab because of the diminishing middle class.

...we need to deal with a bigger issue: GLOBAL WARMING.

maybe they need a fucking oddsmaker to tell them that global warming should be a bigger issue:

what should congress focus on more?

global warming (-450000000000)
online gambling (+100000000)

can someone check the hold on that? :lolBIG:
 

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Absolutely 100% bull. the people that lose their ass gambling online would lose their house anyways witht heir vice of choice. While we are it it, lets just ban everything that could be "harmful". The day is coming when everything from cheeseburgers to candy bars to cigarettes to porn is completely outlawed. 1984 has arrived
 

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Fucking bullshit. One of the many reasons I never have voted Republican and never will.
 

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People lose their house on the stock market. Maybe we should ban people from playing the stock market.

Gotta love the carve outs in this bill. State lotteries on the internet will still be legal. Horseracing on the internet is fine too, unless you make a horse wager off-shore. That would be a felony. Sickening how these republicans are saying this bill is for us americans with "values".
 

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I love the fact that while Crystal Meth is taking over the country, Global Warming is a threat to wipe out coastal cities within the next 100 years, our ports are welcome season for any terroist organization, our southern boarder just extened to the old southern Mexican border and child molesters are running wild on myspace sharing their tips on how to fuck kids..........


Our government is worried about gays marrying, 100 flag burners, and people who like to play online poker and place wagers on sporting events over the net.




Son of a fucking Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Absolutely 100% bull. the people that lose their ass gambling online would lose their house anyways witht heir vice of choice. While we are it it, lets just ban everything that could be "harmful". The day is coming when everything from cheeseburgers to candy bars to cigarettes to porn is completely outlawed. 1984 has arrived

Its your money you have the right to lose it all on 27 Red if you want to. The Government will never ban Ciggs. Even though Cigarettes have been proven to cause health problems and can even kill you the government makes a ton of money off them. When is the last time making a bet has killed someone ? If they could tax online gambling they would never even think of banning it. They are probably recieving a lot of money from casinos in the usa to get this bill passed. Banning online gambling would be like prohibition, it would lead to more illegal activity. More and more people would start betting with bookies.
 

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All this would do, is bring back local book makers who they have no way of taxing. Just tax the offshore bookmaker and make it legal.

I could go to the track, I can play the lottery, I can go to the casinos in Atlantic City. This is somehow different.
 

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my big question is would it restore vegas to it's former sports wagering glory?

Would you have something comprable to olympic on the strip?!
 

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not to worry the senate isnt about to go near that stuff. my friends on capital hill tell me not to worry. heart222

exactly...what the house does means nothing of the senate does not even touch it ..WHO cares:toast:
 

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exactly...what the house does means nothing of the senate does not even touch it ..WHO cares:toast:
Who DOES care and I'm trying to find when the House is scheduled to vote on this ? I would be happy if it did not even make it out of the House to reach the Senate.
 

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It stinks we have to keep worrying about it though. This has been going on for a few years.

I kind of wish they would vote on it, so it could get shot down and go away for good.
 

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What a good field of discussion, this not only affect gamblers as clients their selfs, but the hold commerce and economy that is linked to this activity even over seas.
 

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