NOBODY can ban ACCESS to websites in the US. If they do, your country is lost. Move to china, they'll have more civil rights:
quoted from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship
quoted from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship
Their is a bill already in congress to ban ISP's. The telecom giants wants to take over the internet and decide which sites get priority and have an option to ban an isp. It will be voted on probably later in the year when the senate votes on the online gambling bill. hhmmmmm.... what a coincidence.zee said:
Just like this house ban, a bill to take over the internet was passed also, but it needs to be voted on again later to make it complete.
It can affect it. And maybe their isn't a bill, but it was voted on to continue being looked at.zee said:
here:
http://www.savetheinternet.com/=senatemap
Again, do some reading and try to UNDERSTAND what net neutrality stands for. The bill is there, it just doesn't mean what you think it does. Could it harm the internet? Sure, but not in the way you describe it. In simple words, it could allow ISP's to charge content providers or else they could cripple your actual connection speed. In some spheres it's known as extortion.
TTinCO said:
In theory, they could do their best to restrict access. In practice, in the current state of the internet there is more than one way to access blocked content, so no, they can't. Still, I seriously doubt that there will be censorship from the US on internet content for the moment. I just think the uproar would be too big and your government is not there yet.
On me being rude - you talk BS=> I'm rude - you talk sense => I listen. If more people were doing the same it would be an even better forum.
Zee, it's a pretty basic concept on the ISP level.
Your machine has an IP address. Your ISP gives it to you.
Your ISP gives certain IP ranges to US clients & a different range to Canadians.
The traffic to & from the US IP's is filtered(based upon the IP.....) and the Canada bound traffic passes unfiltered.
Your machine has an IP address. Your ISP gives it to you.
Your ISP gives certain IP ranges to US clients & a different range to Canadians.
The traffic to & from the US IP's is filtered(based upon the IP.....) and the Canada bound traffic passes unfiltered.
TTinCO said:
Ttinco - proxy, tor + privoxy etc. There are ways to encrypt web traffic as there are ways to prevent paquet monitoring. Even if they do their BEST, you'd still be able to access what you want. The casual person may not be, anybody with the desire to do it will find ways.
Edit: AFAIK, there is no way to prevent the tor + privoxy combination. Not yet, at the least.
What is to stop Pinnacle from using a new IP address every time something is blocked? Just ferry the traffic to Canada and then redirect it off to the main address? Surely there are technical ways around this. Now if the DOJ felt it was necessary to have someone watching this 24/7 then it could be done, but they won't. They will need a court order in all likelihood to get a website blocked and they won't want to do this every few days.
ISPs can not block gambling sites.
If they spent 24 hours/day doing so, they would be 50% effective.
Gambling sites can move around. Pinnacle can have a new IP address every hour.
There are proxy servers. There are encryptions, etc.
Who is going to decide which sites are gambling and which is not?
Is the government going to sendout a list? The next day, the list will be meaningless... are they gonna update this every hour?
So yes, an ISP can ban Americans from a certain IP address.
No, an ISP will not be able to keep you from getting to Pinnacle.
The reason it works in China and elsewhere is they tell you if you go there, we will cut off your hand or hang you.
-Sean
If they spent 24 hours/day doing so, they would be 50% effective.
Gambling sites can move around. Pinnacle can have a new IP address every hour.
There are proxy servers. There are encryptions, etc.
Who is going to decide which sites are gambling and which is not?
Is the government going to sendout a list? The next day, the list will be meaningless... are they gonna update this every hour?
So yes, an ISP can ban Americans from a certain IP address.
No, an ISP will not be able to keep you from getting to Pinnacle.
The reason it works in China and elsewhere is they tell you if you go there, we will cut off your hand or hang you.
-Sean
I have worked at both schools and hospitals. Although gambling was blocked at both, I never had a problem getting to the sites I wanted to get to.
There is anonymous surfing, proxies, pings, direct connections to IPs, etc and this was before the sites themselves are trying to help you...
Is your work or ISP gonna find a new list of sites to block every hour?
-Sean
There is anonymous surfing, proxies, pings, direct connections to IPs, etc and this was before the sites themselves are trying to help you...
Is your work or ISP gonna find a new list of sites to block every hour?
-Sean
