TKE, the more I think about it, the more I agree w/ you. I think I might go light on the A's tonight. Like I said, I do not think that Windsor is ready, but the A's are by far the superior team here and my thoughts on Loewen differ greatly from that of Vancouver. I don't think he's going to be much of a major league pitcher. Control problems are the biggest problems for any pitcher in the majors. Look at the top pitchers out there and you will see that they very rarely walk more than a few batters per game. Location, location, location is the name of the game here. If it werent guys like Byrd and Moyer would be exempt. While Loewen is highly touted, I think that Penn is probably their best pitching prospect and if he hadnt of hit the DL, he would probably be in the rotation now instead of Loewen. Remember, Vancouver said that Loewen has control problems and the A's are a team that relies on patience and taking advantage of pitchers that have control problems, this kind of pitcher falls right into their OPS strategy. I'm on the A's and the over for 1 unit.