BOS was really operating in the US

sean1 · Jul 18, 2006

The news for online gaming may not be that bad.

I have information from reliable sources (College students in FL) that BOS was operating a lot in the US. Several of my friends were able to place bets either live with cash or online at vans and busses near campus and near stadiums at UF and FSU.

One person told me he would routinely go to the van before games, place a wager and collect his cash if it won after the game (Seems agents were in place in these vans)

Another told me he would be offered $50 or $100 to open an account with $500 with his credit card.

It seems to me that BOS may have simply gone beyond being an offshore sportsbook.

I do not think the DOJ would be chasing publishers criminally (They did not arrest people at the sportingnews - they settled for money). Thousands of publishers advertise online gaming.

I suspect these "publishers" were in charge of running these vans that actually took bets...

Regardless of our views on the law, the law is you can't book bets here... If you do it and you become worth hundreds of millions, they will go after you. This would make sense that this is going back 5 years (It was in the early 2000s that you could bet at these vans.

Offshore books that remain offshore may remain ok.

-Sean

TTinCO · Jul 18, 2006

I suspect this was a big part of it.....at least a few years ago when this whole investigation apparently started.

Sugarbear · Jul 18, 2006

Shocking news. Agents taking bets in the US. Just like they always have and will. Is this going to stop someone they think? Had the Feds not chased them out of the country starting 25 years ago they would not have this problem today. Idiots.

sean1 · Jul 18, 2006

But the difference is this:

Most agents meet you through people you know or give you their card as you walk by, etc... I've been approached by 100s.

When you set up vans or kiosks on college campuses with your banner posted all over them and you are worth hundreds of millions, the feds decide you are a damn good target....

-Sean

Fighting_Irishman · Jul 18, 2006

Thats the ¨Madden Mobile¨ I was talking about.........

FI

dougstewart · Jul 18, 2006

"Offshore books that remain offshore may remain ok."

If this is true, this would be good news!

Doug · Jul 19, 2006

These vans ever get robbed ?

Fighting_Irishman · Jul 19, 2006

They did all the robbing !!!!!!!!!! ITS BOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FI:lolBIG:

HinesWard86 · Jul 19, 2006

Entered FSU in 2003 and neither me nor my good friends have ever seen those vans outside the Doak. None of my friends at UF have told me about the BOS vans there either.

sean1 · Jul 19, 2006

I suspect the thugs in them were likely armed... Unlikely they sat there with all that money and no weapons..

I never really thought about walking into one... I always thought it was sure a hell of a lot easy to look at the lines in my room than on the side of the road, but I guess they were often packed..

sean1 · Jul 19, 2006

Hines, I think you missed it by about a year. I can only find articles about an arrest at Raymond James (Guess they did not get arrested elsewhere).... but that article was from 2002-2003..

Fighting_Irishman · Jul 19, 2006

Who the fuck wouls fuck with that redneck Jeb Bush? That guys worse than HITLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FI

sean1 · Jul 19, 2006

These guys definitely were not a couple of people who decided, hey let's start a sportsbook in a jurisdiction where it is legal. They took wagers for years and years in the United States. Changing their business names and a few of their officers did not get them out of the eyes of the DOJ.

When a book like Bodog or Olympic that clearly was not started in the 90s in the US goes down, then I will decide the end has come...

BAGIANT · Jul 19, 2006

It would really take balls for BoS to pull something like this off! This shows they think they are above the law. No wonder they are having problems!

Sugarbear · Jul 19, 2006

sean1 said:
But the difference is this:

Most agents meet you through people you know or give you their card as you walk by, etc... I've been approached by 100s.

When you set up vans or kiosks on college campuses with your banner posted all over them and you are worth hundreds of millions, the feds decide you are a damn good target....

-Sean

They have been pretending forr years that they did not exist or that there was viable offshore before the internet. They have in truth been listening to agents call the islands for over 20 years now and is what promted all that telephone shit in the late 80's as well as Rico cases that no one remembers. Rico cases that were supposed to stop just this kind of stuff
and protect americas childern. Many of whom have come and will be coming to these sites for info on betting and other things our goverment protected them from. Those laws are only about 20 years old. Its the kids, kids they need to protect now beause they blew with the current group.

They can sweep up agents and the like anywhere anytime being in the open means nothing. BoS is not the only place doing this there aware of.

They cant do anything about it though. Very little I should say. In 20 years no one will remember just like no one really remebers back then. History reapeats itself but its a 2 pump chump in this arena. Buisness as usual.

WildBill · Jul 19, 2006

Will be interesting if that proves true. About the only reason I can see them keeping Carruthers around. He joined on far after the early shit went on. Now if they got them for doing this with the vans it all makes sense. That is why the other companies got indicted too. They probably helped them with the PR and/or got the vans set up for them.

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