BoDog grades action bets with original line?

ClipJoint · Jul 22, 2006

I have a friend (honestly...not me...lol) that I was giving some plays to and he bets at BoDog. I told him to take Baltimore last night and he did. I assume all plays there are "action" by default unless you specifically list the pitchers.

Well, he bet it at something like -140 (give or take a few cents) with Cabrera pitching. There was a pitching change and Russ Ortiz was at +108 at BoDog when the game went off. I am not sure what the exact new opening line was after the pitching change, but I am sure it was around +100 or so.

BoDog graded his wager with his original line. That is not the rule at any sportsbook I have ever seen.

Does anyone know how they graded the Tampa Bay side?

Journeyman · Jul 22, 2006

I'm Sure They Will Correct This Now.

ClipJoint · Jul 22, 2006

Journeyman said:
I'm Sure They Will Correct This Now.

I had him call them...they told him the action bets are graded with the original line he bet. That can't be right.

JudgeWapner · Jul 22, 2006

He should call back and check with someone who knows, Clip. Doubt seriously these are Bo Dogs rules.

TTinCO · Jul 22, 2006

Hey Clip, have him email me his Acc #

ClipJoint · Jul 22, 2006

Judge Wapner said:
He should call back and check with someone who knows, Clip. Doubt seriously these are Bo Dogs rules.

I am on the phone with them right now and they are telling me the exact same thing.

They are laughing at me saying everyone grades action bets this way. I laughed and read them Pinnacle's rule.

I just asked to speak with the manager...we'll see what he says.

ClipJoint · Jul 22, 2006

TTinCO said:
Hey Clip, have him email me his Acc #

(TT edit - Clip, I got the Acc # & deleted it)

Email me if you need more info.

JudgeWapner · Jul 22, 2006

Hard to believe Clip, but who knows?

ClipJoint · Jul 22, 2006

Judge Wapner said:
Hard to believe Clip, but who knows?

I have been passed to 4 people now and they all seemed stumped when I ask this question and read the rules of the top books.

They keep telling me if you bet action, you just keep you bet.

This is mind boggling.

Santo · Jul 22, 2006

See how long they keep that policy when somebody who knows what they're doing bets into them before they know about a change..

JudgeWapner · Jul 22, 2006

Unfortunately, the man guy there, is on vacation.

ClipJoint · Jul 22, 2006

Can someone else just for fun please call these guys and inquire about how they handle action wagers?

This is getting hilarious. I have now spoken with 5 different people and am on hold again for a 6th.

Dubpoet · Jul 22, 2006

Well it worked out for them. In thier rules I'm sure it says adjust to opening number.

LEYKIS101 · Jul 22, 2006

Somehow this situation isn't mentioned in their rules, you would've thought this question has been raised before:

Baseball

Wagers on the Runline or Total Runs require both listed pitchers to throw the first pitch for wagers to have action, so wagers on the Runline or Total will be refunded if a pitching change occurs prior to both listed pitchers throwing at least one pitch.
When wagering on the Moneyline, you have the option to specify which Listed Pitchers must pitch for your wager to have action. You may specify whether both pitchers must start (known as both or boxed), one pitcher (on or against) or no pitchers (action) by marking the appropriate boxes when making your wager.
Example:

Single Wager
Baseball - MLB Moneyline
Cleveland Indians -150, Sun @8:05p

Bartolo Colon (R) must throw first pitch for Cleveland Indians or this pick is NO ACTION
Aaron Sele (R) must throw first pitch for Anaheim Angels or this pick is NO ACTION
Baseball games are official for wagering purposes according to the following:
- Moneylines After 5 innings (4.5 if the home team is winning)
- Totals/Runlines After 9 innings (8.5 if the home team is winning)
- If a game is called or suspended, the winner shall be determined by the score after the last full inning (unless the home team scores to tie, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called.) Monies will be refunded if the home team ties the game and then it is suspended. Events will not carry over to the following day (unless otherwise specified). Bodog Sportsbook, Casino and Poker does not recognize suspended games, protests, overturned decisions, etc. for wagering purposes, and all wagers must go the day written, otherwise said wagers will be deemed "No Action", with all monies being refunded accordingly.
- If a baseball game goes 9 innings or more and is NOT completed (suspended, rain, darkness, etc.) wagers on the runline and total still have action.
- Parlays involving a "No Action" Runline or Total and Teasers involving a "No Action" Total will be reduced/pushed appropriately. See the "Parlays" and "Teasers" section in the "Bet Types" portion of the Help section if further clarification is needed.
- IMPORTANT: It is the responsibility of the bettor to independently verify the starting pitchers for each game they place a wager on.

ClipJoint · Jul 22, 2006

That is the crazy part...they don't have anything in their rules about this.

Thanks for the phone call TTinco. I appreciate you guys looking into it.

PacMan_2006 · Jul 22, 2006

One, of many, things I like about Pinnacle (for MLB) is that they have it in place that "john doe" MUST START for the wager to take place. Irronically, this happened last night in the Mets game and my wager was no action/refund. It also saved a two-team parlay wager as well.

Illini · Jul 22, 2006

If it lost, why does it matter what the line was? If he had $140 to win $100, the new bet would still be risking $140, no matter what the line went to. Risk amount stays the same, so the loss amount is the same.

ClipJoint · Jul 22, 2006

Illini said:
If it lost, why does it matter what the line was? If he had $140 to win $100, the new bet would still be risking $140, no matter what the line went to. Risk amount stays the same, so the loss amount is the same.

Not worried about the amount lost...it is the line the game is graded on and their policy. They don't have it in their rules.

I don't bet action so I am not all that familiar with how it works other than getting the adjusted price. Do all books keep the initial risk amount? I know that is how The Greek handles it also.

But if this is BoDog's policy on action bets, I will deposit and beat them to the new line everytime I learn of a possible pitching change before they adjust.

Illini · Jul 22, 2006

Clip Joint said:
Not worried about the amount lost...it is the line the game is graded on and their policy. They don't have it in their rules.

I don't bet action so I am not all that familiar with how it works other than getting the adjusted price. Do all books keep the initial risk amount? I know that is how The Greek handles it also.

But if this is BoDog's policy on action bets, I will deposit and beat them to the new line everytime I learn of a possible pitching change before they adjust.

You get the opening line with the same risk amount everywhere, as far as I know.

Woody0 · Jul 22, 2006

Santo said:
See how long they keep that policy when somebody who knows what they're doing bets into them before they know about a change..

Yup, the Euro books that do that are becoming fewer and fewer.

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