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pinny has the line set at Clev -$1.04 and Det -$1.04 @ 4:42 est

right now i am listening to a piece called "operation dinner out" and its from the "spy game" movie soundtrack. excellent


here we are....Rogers vs Byrd. neither has impressive stuff, both know how to pitch. To grade their talent you might give lefty a 6 out of 10 and byrd a 4. knowledge of the game and how to set hitters up, rogers a 9.5 and byrd a 8.3. some people are throwers, some people are pitchers, and those that have both are stars.

well we all know that Det had Rodney pitch like crap tonight for a couple innings which means he wont be available on tuesday but Joel Is rested and thats good news for the tigers. Clev doesnt have anyone in the pen trully worthy of much mention so capping their pitchers rp isnt much more then a slight negitive each time out. Zumaya + vs Clev pen -.
best batters on Clev are hafner and siezemore, both lefties and vs rogers thats a slight - for clev. i could care less what they are vs lefties as a whole b/c the fact is that doesnt mean that fucking much. if your vs santana/liriano/bedard/kaz your stats likely suck vs "lefties" as some might say when in fact your stats trully just suck vs good pitching like eveyrone elses. for instance, joe Mauer hit his first Hr off a lefty tonight...you know why? b/c that lefty made a bad pitch and he smashed the fuck out of it. the guys are pros and have faced lefties and righties their entire lives, fact is, it tougher for most people to hit lefties b/c they see them less. so a couple of clevs top bats are lefties and their vs a lefty thats been around, slight - for clev.
now neither one of these guys are strike out pitchers so you know the ball is going to be in play for the first 5-7 innings while these boys work and det has the better defense so thats a small + for det
knowing that the ball will be in play a lot we're gonna take a look at who puts the highest percentage of good swings on the ball and who hits for the highest average on balls put in play. first guy we come to is Joe mauer who hits .408 on balls put in play which is #1 in baseball. coming down to our game we have Granderson at .367 (6th), sizemore at .352 (7th), pudge at .350 (8th), and victor Martinez and Carlos guillen each at .331 and tied for (19th) in the AL. hafner isnt far behind so we'll leave this at pretty even.
now we want to see which team has more players who hit a higer % of line drives which is the most frequent batted ball the lands for a base hit (not grounders or fly balls). the first one in our game is jason Michaels who hits lines drives 25.9% of the time which is good for 3rd in the AL. he is followed closely by boone and then granderson and Pudge giving two players from each team in the top portion of the league but Michaels a bit of a surprise and not someone you typically figure in when capping which is a bit of a bonus for clev. you know each game has a surprise guy that comes out of nowhere and you think to yourself, "wtf, i cant believe that douche hits a HR vs me, figures". we know the stars but part of it is trying to figure out which team may have some goofball surprise us, tomorrow it may be Michaels and it may not...just something to look at.
now lets take a look at the pitchers and what they have been giving up this year. with rogers/pudge you know you are going to have the running game under control so we dont figure in any steals for the first 6 innings or so tomorrow vs Det. keepings runners close plays a role in not only not allowing steals but sometimes preventing a guy from going first to 3rd on a single which can be big. A problem Rogers does face is the HR and hes given up 17 of those which is 2 more than he gave up all of last season. the good news is he is walking less people and ahs a lower whip which means a HR is more likely a solo shot than a multi-run blast. The elfty also sports a .437 Slugging% against which is .037 points higher than where he ended last season. kennys ERA sits just below 4.00 and his RA (era but included unearned runs) stands at 4.19. rogers gives up 18.1% line drives, 47.4% ground balls, and 5.8% infield flies. the rest are outfield fly balls, 13.7% of which end up as HRs which is far higher than where Rogers was last season. there is some more but thats enough for kenny rogers...lets look at Paul Byrd for a bit.
the first thing i see is that byrd/martinez dont keep runner from stealing on them. Det may not run a ton, but they will have the option should they choose. Byrd also isnt a guy that induces many Dps which is important when determining a ptichers ability to get himself out of a jam. Paul Byrd gives up an identical .437 slugging percentage. now as we pointed out Rogers and how simliar his era was to his "RA" we dont have the same case here with Byrd. Byrd allows 4.28 earned runs an outing but 4.91 total runs per outing which, as e already mentioned, shows how poor clev can be on defense and thats why det got that small advantage. the bad news for byrd is the he gives up 22.7% of his batted balls for line drives which is pretty fucking high. he also only gets 36.4% ground balls which means the ball spends a lot of time in the air which can be a killer but byrd manages by getting 12.8% of the those fly balls for infield flies and only 9.2% of his outfield fly balls leave the yard; 11-12% is the average rate. one thing that i didnt mention with rogers was the % of men that he leaves on base which is a solid # where he ios concerned but is not for byrd whom only keeps 68.9% of the men that reach vs him stranded.

more recently paul byrd has been pretty bad allowing a whip of 1.50 or higher in each of his last 4 games. his numbers for the season are decent but the % of line drives he gives up, his inablity to hold runners, his lack of a pitch to induce double plays and his lack fo a strike out pitch make him a good bet to allow some runs tomorrow. on the other side there is Kenny Rogers who has been a bit worse recently posting a whip of 1.50 or higher in each of his last 5 outings and all but 1 well over 1.50.

it seems that we have a couple pitchers in a rut and we'll see some runs put up in clev tomorrow, i havent checked if the ump is an under or over guy, but its a fair bet that the ball will be put in play fairly frequently and guys will be crossing the plate. Det has Joel ready and the better overall pitcher on the mound. I would lean towards the ove 9.5 and a slight lean towards Det if playing this contest. this is merely an example write up of a game someone posted a poll about. there is more involved, but this should be enough for now.


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pinny has the line set at Clev -$1.04 and Det -$1.04 @ 4:42 est

right now i am listening to a piece called "operation dinner out" and its from the "spy game" movie soundtrack. excellent


here we are....Rogers vs Byrd. neither has impressive stuff, both know how to pitch. To grade their talent you might give lefty a 6 out of 10 and byrd a 4. knowledge of the game and how to set hitters up, rogers a 9.5 and byrd a 8.3. some people are throwers, some people are pitchers, and those that have both are stars.

well we all know that Det had Rodney pitch like crap tonight for a couple innings which means he wont be available on tuesday but Joel Is rested and thats good news for the tigers. Clev doesnt have anyone in the pen trully worthy of much mention so capping their pitchers rp isnt much more then a slight negitive each time out. Zumaya + vs Clev pen -.
best batters on Clev are hafner and siezemore, both lefties and vs rogers thats a slight - for clev. i could care less what they are vs lefties as a whole b/c the fact is that doesnt mean that fucking much. if your vs santana/liriano/bedard/kaz your stats likely suck vs "lefties" as some might say when in fact your stats trully just suck vs good pitching like eveyrone elses. for instance, joe Mauer hit his first Hr off a lefty tonight...you know why? b/c that lefty made a bad pitch and he smashed the fuck out of it. the guys are pros and have faced lefties and righties their entire lives, fact is, it tougher for most people to hit lefties b/c they see them less. so a couple of clevs top bats are lefties and their vs a lefty thats been around, slight - for clev.
now neither one of these guys are strike out pitchers so you know the ball is going to be in play for the first 5-7 innings while these boys work and det has the better defense so thats a small + for det
knowing that the ball will be in play a lot we're gonna take a look at who puts the highest percentage of good swings on the ball and who hits for the highest average on balls put in play. first guy we come to is Joe mauer who hits .408 on balls put in play which is #1 in baseball. coming down to our game we have Granderson at .367 (6th), sizemore at .352 (7th), pudge at .350 (8th), and victor Martinez and Carlos guillen each at .331 and tied for (19th) in the AL. hafner isnt far behind so we'll leave this at pretty even.
now we want to see which team has more players who hit a higer % of line drives which is the most frequent batted ball the lands for a base hit (not grounders or fly balls). the first one in our game is jason Michaels who hits lines drives 25.9% of the time which is good for 3rd in the AL. he is followed closely by boone and then granderson and Pudge giving two players from each team in the top portion of the league but Michaels a bit of a surprise and not someone you typically figure in when capping which is a bit of a bonus for clev. you know each game has a surprise guy that comes out of nowhere and you think to yourself, "wtf, i cant believe that douche hits a HR vs me, figures". we know the stars but part of it is trying to figure out which team may have some goofball surprise us, tomorrow it may be Michaels and it may not...just something to look at.
now lets take a look at the pitchers and what they have been giving up this year. with rogers/pudge you know you are going to have the running game under control so we dont figure in any steals for the first 6 innings or so tomorrow vs Det. keepings runners close plays a role in not only not allowing steals but sometimes preventing a guy from going first to 3rd on a single which can be big. A problem Rogers does face is the HR and hes given up 17 of those which is 2 more than he gave up all of last season. the good news is he is walking less people and ahs a lower whip which means a HR is more likely a solo shot than a multi-run blast. The elfty also sports a .437 Slugging% against which is .037 points higher than where he ended last season. kennys ERA sits just below 4.00 and his RA (era but included unearned runs) stands at 4.19. rogers gives up 18.1% line drives, 47.4% ground balls, and 5.8% infield flies. the rest are outfield fly balls, 13.7% of which end up as HRs which is far higher than where Rogers was last season. there is some more but thats enough for kenny rogers...lets look at Paul Byrd for a bit.
the first thing i see is that byrd/martinez dont keep runner from stealing on them. Det may not run a ton, but they will have the option should they choose. Byrd also isnt a guy that induces many Dps which is important when determining a ptichers ability to get himself out of a jam. Paul Byrd gives up an identical .437 slugging percentage. now as we pointed out Rogers and how simliar his era was to his "RA" we dont have the same case here with Byrd. Byrd allows 4.28 earned runs an outing but 4.91 total runs per outing which, as e already mentioned, shows how poor clev can be on defense and thats why det got that small advantage. the bad news for byrd is the he gives up 22.7% of his batted balls for line drives which is pretty fucking high. he also only gets 36.4% ground balls which means the ball spends a lot of time in the air which can be a killer but byrd manages by getting 12.8% of the those fly balls for infield flies and only 9.2% of his outfield fly balls leave the yard; 11-12% is the average rate. one thing that i didnt mention with rogers was the % of men that he leaves on base which is a solid # where he ios concerned but is not for byrd whom only keeps 68.9% of the men that reach vs him stranded.

more recently paul byrd has been pretty bad allowing a whip of 1.50 or higher in each of his last 4 games. his numbers for the season are decent but the % of line drives he gives up, his inablity to hold runners, his lack of a pitch to induce double plays and his lack fo a strike out pitch make him a good bet to allow some runs tomorrow. on the other side there is Kenny Rogers who has been a bit worse recently posting a whip of 1.50 or higher in each of his last 5 outings and all but 1 well over 1.50.

it seems that we have a couple pitchers in a rut and we'll see some runs put up in clev tomorrow, i havent checked if the ump is an under or over guy, but its a fair bet that the ball will be put in play fairly frequently and guys will be crossing the plate. Det has Joel ready and the better overall pitcher on the mound. I would lean towards the ove 9.5 and a slight lean towards Det if playing this contest. this is merely an example write up of a game someone posted a poll about. there is more involved, but this should be enough for now.


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np guys...just wanted to take some time and write a game up for sos and talk about some things i look at when capping a game
 

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Seems like the over is a nice play here. Rogers historically falls apart in the second half, and Cleveland already has hit him pretty good this year. Byrd is an average joe as well.
 

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hopfully the over hits

hopfully the over hits




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nice to have gone over in the 2nd inning



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...followed closely by the over in the Cubs-Mets game.
 

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Mofo... U know what... its hard to impress me.. but IM impressed! U have a new follower even though U cut me up a couple weeks ago. Its all good! Nuttin but luv homie :pope:

Oh ya.. IM Still tha BOSS :dancefool

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Mofo... U know what... its hard to impress me.. but IM impressed! U have a new follower even though U cut me up a couple weeks ago. Its all good! Nuttin but luv homie :pope:

Oh ya.. IM Still tha BOSS :dancefool

GL mang!:103631605
 

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Big Boss Man said:
Mofo... U know what... its hard to impress me.. but IM impressed! U have a new follower even though U cut me up a couple weeks ago. Its all good! Nuttin but luv homie :pope:

Oh ya.. IM Still tha BOSS :dancefool

GL mang!:103631605


eh someone else told me about your records and i said something. not a big deal and you were cool about it anyway. thanks for the words, lets just try to make money and increase our brs for football.
you are still tha Boss.

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team in the top portion of the league but Michaels a bit of a surprise and not someone you typically figure in when capping which is a bit of a bonus for clev. you know each game has a surprise guy that comes out of nowhere and you think to yourself, "wtf, i cant believe that douche hits a HR vs me, figures". we know the stars but part of it is trying to figure out which team may have some goofball surprise us, tomorrow it may be Michaels and it may not...just something to look at.




our surprise player is 3-3 with a run and 2RBI


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mofo was looking forward to tailing all your plays today, but you only had one and I took it, and it wins by a landslide...took some of my own pics today, Minny for 2.5 units, Yankees -1.5 for 1.1, the CLE OVER thanks to you for 1.1, Arizona for 1.1 and ZAMBRANO and the Cubs....just reading your posts gives me a good clear mind, need some of your damn good mojo for my MINNY BET....3 MORE OUTS FOR A WIN...Top of the 9th hopefully Minny gets an insurance run...really suprised Rincon ptiched a perfect 8th, hed been getting KILLEd by the Chi Sox this year, 27era vs them this year...hopefully Nathan comes in and does what he always does, GETS THE SAVE...root for me man, and thanks again for that over...the way you began your write up, it looked like you were aiming towads an under bet....glad I read the whole thing and got your main point...you wre right, guys sure would be crossing the plate to score alot, and at a ridiculous rate....PLEASE TELL ME YOU GOT A FULL CARD TOMM...Told you brohter, im tailing you all year and only playing what you play when you have a card...if not im gonna go out on a limb and see if I can find some winners using the mentality you have taught me...thanks again, and let me know if you wil be posting tomm...and dont forget, ROOT FOR TWINKIES TO CLOSE THIS OUT
 

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ROOT FOR TWINKIES TO CLOSE THIS OUT


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well done friend. :toast: i am looking at tomorrows card a bit...tonight was a good night. there are many things that people look at when capping that matter and then there are some things that people look at or look for that dont matter. the wins are out there and sometimes it takes a lot of work to find them and sometimes they are a bit easier. i dont always put the time into each game that i could/should but when the time is put in the results typically follow. winning is great, winning more is better

congrats on a nice night, bud


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