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Their now charging 3% withdrawal fee. They allow one free withdrawal, up to $2500 per month.

Bad move on their part.

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2500$ once per month is more than enough for most..... (me anyway) its a good way for them to keep the bonus whores away
 

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As I posted earlier today, they are not:

Please wait for a site operator to respond.
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Hello this is 'Alicia'. How may I help you?
Alicia: Hello welcome to our live chat service. How may I assist you?
Sean: Hello, I have played at Bowmans before and planned to reup for football, but when I was reading your rules, under neteller, it says for withdrawals A fee of 3% will be charged on deposit amounts not churned. 3% is a large fee on large withdrawals. Can you tell me what is meant by not churned? Thanks
Alicia: Let me explain about churning first.
Sean: Ok
Alicia: Churning simply means rollover. Or wager.
Sean: Ok
Alicia: It is the amount that you play it.
Alicia: Just tell me if you understand?
Sean: Yes I understand
Alicia: Let us say you deposit $500.
Sean: So say you deposited $5000 and rolled through $20000 in bets, could you then withdraw without a charge?
Alicia: If you wager the whole $500, it means you churned it.
Alicia: Ok.
Alicia: Very good then.
Alicia: Now let us get to the charge.
Alicia: The 3% charge was always there Sir.
Sean: So if you churn your deposit once, you are not charged to withdraw?
Alicia: It is 3% that is debited on the unchurned part of your deposit.
Sean: Perfect, so as long as you wager at least all that you deposit, there is no neteller withdrawal fee? Am I understanding correctly?
Alicia: it applies to your last deposit only.
Sean: Ok. Just to be 100% clear, if I deposit $5000 and wager at least $5000, then I can make withdrawals via neteller without fee, correct?
Alicia: And yes if you churn the deposit once, you are not charged.
Sean: Ok. Perfect. Thank you.
Sean: YOu may want to reword that part so people understand. It has been posted on several forum (Therx, etc) that you are now charging 3% on withdrawals. I found it unlikely, but wanted to ask. Once again thank you.
 

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i see more books charging for withdrawls. this is a very bad move and will hurt business. some people(like me) like to make more than 1 withdrawl per month.

nothing like winning money and then having to pay to get it out. that leaves a bad taste in peoples mouth.
 

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The problem is neteller has been steadily increasing their fees as other methods are dwindling. On some books, you can see the fees charged. Neteller is now charging about $50 to transfer $1000...

It is time for another processor like Neteller to come to light.

Otherwise, more books are going to start charging or encouraging bank wires soon.

-sean
 

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When I'm hitting pretty well I'd use two maybe three withdrawls at a book a month. That's having 7 or 8 books and taking out no more than $5000 at a time. So some people do need more than one withdrawl a month.
 

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However, Sean clearly showed they are not charging 3% as long as you roll your account accordingly. Same as any book.
 

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it appears Neteller is always free at Bowmans, as long as you bet at least your last deposit amount before any withdrawals. Pretty good deal.
 

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