100K to park cars????

Search

Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
34,790
Tokens
From the LasVegas SUN:

nameplate.gif

Today: August 27, 2006 at 7:26:33 PDT

It's a myth, now park it


Join us in the hunt for Las Vegas' legendary $100,000 valet


By Marshall Allen
[SIZE=-2]Las Vegas Sun[/SIZE]
You hear the whispers as soon as you come to town: Valets can make six figures - just for parking cars.
Valets have achieved mythic status in Las Vegas. We watch with envy as they slide behind the wheel of cars the rest of us feel lucky to look at. They're congenial, get paid to exercise and appear liberated from the daily grind.
But most of all, we think about their money. A valet smiles, opens a car door, offers a greeting - and gets cold hard cash. Smile-greet-cash. Repeat. One valet compared it to mice running circles and being rewarded with pieces of cheese. Green cheese.
Champion boxer Floyd Mayweather is known to tip $100 in and out at the valet stand. Retired NFL wide receiver Jerry Rice is just as generous. Most drivers are not as flush with cash, but $3 tips are standard on the Strip and $5 per car is common.
Valets are skittish about discussing tips, maybe because they fear the IRS or because broadcasting assets could slow the currency flow. Some refuse outright to talk about money, which probably makes the rest of us more prone to gossip. It's routinely asserted that valets can earn $100,000 a year. Mostly tax-free. To park cars.
But challenge this common belief and you'll find that no one knows a six-figure valet. Perhaps it's an urban legend, yet another exaggeration in a city that hypes fantasy until people believe it. Like the Las Vegas version of the Yeti, but in a spiffy uniform and sporting a tan. If this mythical being exists, we wanted to spot the well-heeled car-parker. Here's what we found in a quest to verify the existence of the six-figure valet.

<CENTER>• • •</CENTER>
Valets love their jobs and know they're lucky to have them. But they also hustle for the money. At the highest rated hotels, guests must not be delayed when checking in or leaving the premises for a day trip. Thus, the day shift is consumed with shuttling cars for guests, who may be stingy because they expect the service. That's a lot of running in a place like the Venetian or Caesars Palace, which have 4,000 and 3,300 rooms, respectively. Valets at the Venetian may have to jog up four flights of stairs in 100-degree heat to retrieve a car.
The swing shift brings in the dinner and show crowds, while the graveyard shift means running cars for club-hoppers. The partyers usually are more generous with the tips, valets say. But one never knows. A driver in a Rolls-Royce has stiffed the valet. People who own clunkers can be generous.
Anthony Curtis, president of lasvegasadvisor.com, says the valet was already a famous figure in local lore when he first came to Las Vegas in 1979. Curtis said he has heard people say the six-figure valet exists, but he has never known one. The job has always been coveted, he said.
"It's a hard job to get, a fairly juiced-in job," Curtis said. "That adds to the mystique. You can't just walk up and say, 'I want to do this.' You need to know someone, or be diligent. It's almost like a job that's held out to special people."
There are rumors that prospective valets pay bribes to gain entry into the elite corps. But no valets interviewed for this story had heard of this practice. Instead, the juice is nothing more than knowing the right person to get the job.
Curtis said valets can always use their position to "freelance" - make connections to escorts, drugs and other underground or illegal activities. A company called Heartthrobs VIP Referral Program, which facilitates private engagements with strippers, claims to pay bellmen, cabdrivers and valets $100 per referral.
"Certainly there's a supplementation of income for those who choose to go that route," Curtis said.
Curtis added that it's a small percentage of valets who supplement their income through underground means, but they also generate the buzz that contributes to the mystique.
The median individual income in Clark County is about $37,000. That number sounds paltry when one drives up to the grandeur of Wynn Las Vegas, the Strip's newest resort . Pull into the $2.7 billion resort and you might be greeted by Julian Hapitana, a valet who's been at the hotel since it opened in 2005. Hapitana was a valet for four years at the Golden Nugget before joining the staff at Wynn. He's got lots of energy - he's also a bell captain at the Flamingo.
Wynn sounds like a car lover's dream. Hapitana said he has driven a Lamborghini Murcielago, priced about $300,000, and the Aston Martin Vanquish, which runs about $260,000. The Rolls-Royce Phantom - another $300,000 car - also puts in appearances at Wynn.
Stylish wheels often deliver generous gratuities, according to Hapitana. From what he hears from friends at other properties, tips are tops at Wynn. A $100 gratuity is rare, but not unheard of, and $5 is standard.
"I have people asking every day at Flamingo to get in to Wynn," he said.
Even with the Wynn's wealthy clientele, it would be impossible for a valet to make $100,000 a year, Hapitana said. Wynn valets run between 1,500 and 1,800 vehicles a day, and valets pool tips on every shift and divide them. Like other high-end properties, Wynn's reputation is based on its consumer ratings, and guests must not be kept waiting. To maintain the highest levels of service, the valet stand is usually overstaffed with about 20 people, Hapitana said.
"With more hours and more people, from a valet point of view, that's not good," he said. "They cut into the money."
Wynn valets earn about $9 an hour and $100 a shift in tips, Hapitana estimated. That works out to about $44,700 if an employee works every week of the year. Supervisors get a larger cut of the tips, so Hapitana estimated they could make $50,000 tops. Supervisors at Wynn and other properties declined to comment .
Trevor Johnson said he loves being a valet because he's paid to work out, has flexibility to gamble and because he loves the cash. Johnson, 28, is a former personal trainer who now valets at the Venetian and various restaurants in Las Vegas. He has known valets who make $70,000 or $80,000 at places like Mandalay Bay or New York-New York, but never six figures. At the Venetian, tips are pooled, but ticket writers - the person who greets you and gives you the claim check - get a much smaller cut than runners and supervisors.
"It all depends on where you work, to be honest," Johnson said of the money. "Even some of the casinos that aren't busy but have less people working the shifts are making more money."
Marissa Chien is a good person to dispel the myth of the six-figure valet. She's a gambler and tax accountant whose clients include bellmen, cocktail waitresses and valets at high-end hotels. Valet pay varies greatly depending on the property, she said. The highest paid employees anywhere are the doormen, who can easily clear $100,000 annually, Chien said.
Valet supervisors at the top properties can earn $15 an hour plus $60,000 annually in tips, she said. That's $91,200 a year. Of course, they claim only 25 percent of the total on their income taxes, she said.
The IRS is under fierce criticism from the service industry for auditing employees who participate in its tip compliance program. The program uses a formula to determine how much tip-income employees report for federal tax purposes. The formula results in massive underreporting, Chien says, so she has "zero sympathy for them whining about tip compliance." The unreported tips are also spared a 7.65 percent Social Security tax that's assessed on other wages, she said.
Mike Magnani represents about 550 valets at properties like Caesars Palace, Luxor and Paris Las Vegas as chief executive of Teamsters Local 995. He said the tip compliance rate ranges from $2 to $6.50 an hour tacked onto the wage, depending on the property and shift. He said the rumor that valets earn more than $100,000 is simply not true. But they do make a good living - about $60,000 a year - and have one of the best middle-class jobs, he said.
So it appears the myth of the six-figure valet can be debunked, though it will certainly live on in Las Vegas lore. A Bellagio valet called the rumor "ridiculous." "Everyone inflates everything" in Las Vegas, she said .
Marshall Allen can be reached at 259-2330 or at marshall.allen@lasvegassun.com.
 

Active member
Joined
Oct 20, 1999
Messages
75,444
Tokens
One of the best jobs in town...........if you can get it.

-fh-

PS- The DOOR man at the Las Vegas Hilton pulls in $300,000+ a year and has been there for years.
 

www.youtubecom/hubbardsmusic
Joined
Aug 21, 2003
Messages
11,679
Tokens
I believe it...those people that whistle a cab probably make 60K
 

New member
Joined
Jul 20, 2002
Messages
75,154
Tokens
100K is a stretch when 90% is from tokes. Valets make real good money but not $2000 a week.




wil.
 

Active member
Joined
Jun 20, 2000
Messages
71,780
Tokens
wilheim said:
100K is a stretch when 90% is from tokes. Valets make real good money but not $2000 a week.




wil.
that seems more like it ...plus many STIFF the valets or just give them 1$
 

Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
34,790
Tokens
Factor in the CASH and not paying taxes on some of it, 80K can equal 100K in 'their' book I guess.
 

Simply the best
Joined
Sep 20, 2001
Messages
4,165
Tokens
Monkey jobs, again, the mind is a terrible thing to waste. I've seen x school teachers working as bell hops and change whores.

Even though I hated working in a Casino for shit money at least I was able to sit down at a keyboard and write some anal stories.

I am soooooooo glad to be back in the real world and out of the casino grind.

God bless all the Casino workers, it's a tough life.

-K1
 

New member
Joined
Sep 21, 2003
Messages
42,910
Tokens
Kiss1 said:
Monkey jobs, again, the mind is a terrible thing to waste. I've seen x school teachers working as bell hops and change whores.

Even though I hated working in a Casino for shit money at least I was able to sit down at a keyboard and write some anal stories.

I am soooooooo glad to be back in the real world and out of the casino grind.

God bless all the Casino workers, it's a tough life.

-K1


K1, I thought you were working at a sportsbook now?
 

New member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
1,474
Tokens
That cajun mfer at Hilton probably opened my cab door gazillion times over my career as a hack. He would have a line of 100+ people and a line of 50+ cabs during a convention break. Load a cab one at a time, blowing that f'ing whistle when we could see him plain as day and were waiting now a ride. He had to put on a show. He would let everyone in line waiting for a cab to now to give him a tip. He would wave that dollar around. Best thing do to is flag cab before they getin cab line.
 

Active member
Joined
Oct 20, 1999
Messages
75,444
Tokens
kyhawk said:
That cajun mfer at Hilton probably opened my cab door gazillion times over my career as a hack. He would have a line of 100+ people and a line of 50+ cabs during a convention break. Load a cab one at a time, blowing that f'ing whistle when we could see him plain as day and were waiting now a ride. He had to put on a show. He would let everyone in line waiting for a cab to now to give him a tip. He would wave that dollar around. Best thing do to is flag cab before they getin cab line.

Kyhawk- Do you remember his name?

I remember an article they had him in the REVIEW JOURNAL stating what he made in certain years.
 

New member
Joined
Nov 2, 2005
Messages
202
Tokens
what about bag handles at the airport...i read an article about how hard it is to get that kind of job and it isn't uncommon for the title to be passed down in the family, like if a dad/uncle retires the son usually steps in.
 

Simply the best
Joined
Sep 20, 2001
Messages
4,165
Tokens
SportSavant said:
K1, I thought you were working at a sportsbook now?

No, I passed on the job at Stations.

I went back to work in HOA Management.
 

Respect My Steez
Joined
Feb 15, 2005
Messages
6,453
Tokens
I have a buddy who used to work valet at a high class Japanese restaurant in Vegas. He didn't approach 100k a year but made very good money considering the minimal amount of "work" you do.
 

Triple digit silver kook
Joined
Mar 1, 2005
Messages
13,697
Tokens
A person making 70k a year and most of it coming via unreported tips is making as much take home pay as someone earning 100k a year.

IRS officials have been trying to crack the code of airport baggage handlers for many years. A very tight lipped bunch of guys and they dont tell what they are actually making.

:money:
 

New member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
8,781
Tokens
Everyone who knows anything knew this was an urban myth. There are some fantastic days for these guys, but those are fleeting. Those doing valet on Tuesday morning at Circus Circus certainly aren't making more money than someone with a white collar job. If the guys at Wynn aren't getting 100k, no one is. The doorman is making very solid change for having so little talent or contribution, but chances of them making big money aren't very good either. After all how many doormen have you tipped? The bellhops make good money, but you figure they only get to take bags up to a room 5 or 6 times an hour in a busy period making maybe $50 in most of those good hours. So just a feeling a lot of people overestimate these legendary Vegas jobs. They are great if you have little formal education and are willing to work your butt off, but don't drop out of school just yet.
 

Rx God
Joined
Nov 1, 2002
Messages
39,226
Tokens
I bet the Cock-tail girls crack 100K routinely at top LV casinos., esp. if they are HOT !
 

New member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
8,781
Tokens
Doug said:
I bet the Cock-tail girls crack 100K routinely at top LV casinos., esp. if they are HOT !

If you're hot and female you basically can write your ticket in this town. A good reason why the girls over at UNLV aren't half what lots of people would expect. All the conditions are here for coeds at least as hot as at ASU, but we sadly underperform. Why go to college when you can earn 200k minimum for showing your tits and 150k minimum for almost showing them in a tight cocktail outfit?
 

Member
Joined
Dec 15, 2004
Messages
2,954
Tokens
The Hilton cab guy is legendary. I'm not sure he is there anymore. The one I remember worked there when Wayne Newton did his show there. He was dressed up in a "Beefeater" costume. He used to open the cab door saying 2 for 2 or 3 for 3, waving the dollar or more. His best move was when he got stiffed he still made the dollar or dollars appear in his hand. I clocked him for hours. I would see people fishing for loose bills in their pockets to tip him. The best was during the old COMDEX show when they use to get 200,000 attendees and he was stiffed almost 100% of the time. Those computer guys just didn't tip. On the other hand when Wayne Newton let out it was jackpot time. I'll bet he made $150,000 a year. He didn't have to share tips.

Interesting article about Valet attendants, I didn't realized tips were pooled and they had to kick money back to supervisors. Cocktail girls make the most money but that is a back breaking job. They have to wear high heels or at the very least uncomfortable shoes. Their on their feet the the entire day. The job has a very short shelf life. When their looks go the tips go down. I use to laugh at some those grotesque creatures they had working at the Stardust. Some of those women were in their fifties and looked seventy. After 4 kids and 5 marriages they were ready for nursing homes. I liked the old Vegas, when you turned ugly, you were shown the door.
 

New member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
165
Tokens
TheCooler said:
what about bag handles at the airport...i read an article about how hard it is to get that kind of job and it isn't uncommon for the title to be passed down in the family, like if a dad/uncle retires the son usually steps in.

At McCarran, $100-200 per shift is not uncommon, depending on time of day/day of week, with curbside handlers generally doing better than those in baggage claim.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,108,476
Messages
13,451,873
Members
99,417
Latest member
go789click
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com