My understanding is that a period of time would be given to determine how exactly to enforce the new legislation, possibly 6 months to 1 year. However, that is merely an estimate. I wouldn't worry about re-loading for this football season. There will be plenty of advice in this forum as to how to proceed if and when the time comes. Stay tuned.
If this bill passes, it will end up in court for years. The bankng industry will immediately file suit against it as unconsitutional (You can not require an industry to spend billions on something that it does not want to do...)
If the banking industry does not file suit, players will.
If in the unlikely event this bill passes, it will be put on hold till appealed much like Bush losing his spying law last week - he can still spy till courts rule on appeal.
-Sean
If the banking industry does not file suit, players will.
If in the unlikely event this bill passes, it will be put on hold till appealed much like Bush losing his spying law last week - he can still spy till courts rule on appeal.
-Sean
brijames said:
Unlike that bill that Conyers was trying to pass a couple of years back about commision to study regulation, which would have taken a year or so to report, prohibition would take effect very quickly, in 8 months or so.
Don't be so sure that the banks will not bend over and take it. If they have to code ACH they will.
But so by any reckoning you're safe this Football season andethough March madness for sure.
However let's not be fatalistic. 80 percent of Americans believe that gambling is a question of personal choice that should not be interfered with by the government: http://www.onlinegamblingmythsandfacts.com/polls.htm
Just we need to stand up for our rights. If not, why are we living in the US of A? The government is meant to be our servant, with our representative listening to what we want.
How the hell are the Senators going to know the reality if no one tells them?
How many posters here would go on a free trip to DC to speak to their Senators?
http://forum2.therx.com/showthread.php?t=397624
Official sign up site for free trip to the Capitol
http://forum2.therx.com/showthread.php?t=398043
Whoson1st said:
Hate to go too far down the road on this discussion however if the bill passes, I will be anxious to here from fellow Rx'ers what type of workarounds may exist to fund accounts. My biggest concern would be having the website's blocked by our ISP's. I understand there are ways around that too however. It would definitely put the collective creative minds of this forum to the test.
not me ...I will not be wagering if they pass it always said that BUTWhoson1st said:
I feel pretty good this late in the year that they do not even look at this bill from what I have been reading in the short time congress is back in sept and if they look at it not enough to to vote on it....Frist said its now LOW priorty , in this short election month from what I read
that does not mean we are out of the woods yet with this bill but its a good sign
sean1 said:
Sean:
Hope you're right and I certainly respect your opinions and posts. Would have to disagree that Neteller is a workaround. Christ, the state of Maryland has managed to block my use of Neteller today. Sounds to me like Neteller will cave at the slightest hint of trouble from the US goverment.
Anyway, I agree that the passage and enforcability of this bill is unlikely and this discussion is premature. Just wish we could fast forward the next few weeks until the Senate session ends.
If this bill passes NETELLER is HISTORY for 99% of US players. Maybe a few that have foreign bank accts. will find a "work around" but that will be it. Very simple for the banks to block Neteller (Maryland has done it for years)
Like Dante, I'm thinking it won't pass this year. But nobody knows.
Like Dante, I'm thinking it won't pass this year. But nobody knows.
Trying using a proxy service with servers in Europe.Vegas Player 777 said:
http://www.stopcarnivore.org/
Neteller would fight back but if the bill passes and ACH is coded like credit cards now, that's the main problem. Who's going to get on a plane with a wad of cash just to fund a sportsbook?
Might as well make the hop to Vegas instead. Online sports betting inside Nevada is legal.
Offshore books would be toast in this scenario. So don't let the bill pass!
Sean:
Hope you're right and I certainly respect your opinions and posts. Would have to disagree that Neteller is a workaround. Christ, the state of Maryland has managed to block my use of Neteller today. Sounds to me like Neteller will cave at the slightest hint of trouble from the US goverment.
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Neteller has simply caved to Maryland's demand to keep themselves out of the limelight.
Maryland is a tiny state and anyone moving serious money will simply drive to VA, DE, DC, etc. Neteller knows this and likely lost very little business by saying ok.
When Blocked in MD, neteller had two choices - say ok or fight. IF they fought, the feds might have decided to step in. Better lose a few people in MD than fight.
If the US government blocks all states from using Neteller, neteller will start simply setting up multiple bank accounts to take funds.
If they don't 3 or 4 new companies will.
When paypal stopped gambling transactions, we got neteller, moneybookers, prepaidatm, citadel, swiftpay, egold, and about 5 others. Neteller was the best.
If for some reason Neteller says ok, we stop, 5 more would step up.
Also, this law will never be found constitutional. This will be the first time that a US law prevents people from sending money to another country with which we do not have an embargo.
YOu can be arrested for buying drugs and shipping them here, but the bank has no legal right to stop you from sending the payment.
If this bill passes, what will really be toast will be forums - no one will post about their activities anymore.
-Sean
Hope you're right and I certainly respect your opinions and posts. Would have to disagree that Neteller is a workaround. Christ, the state of Maryland has managed to block my use of Neteller today. Sounds to me like Neteller will cave at the slightest hint of trouble from the US goverment.
>>>>>>>>>
Neteller has simply caved to Maryland's demand to keep themselves out of the limelight.
Maryland is a tiny state and anyone moving serious money will simply drive to VA, DE, DC, etc. Neteller knows this and likely lost very little business by saying ok.
When Blocked in MD, neteller had two choices - say ok or fight. IF they fought, the feds might have decided to step in. Better lose a few people in MD than fight.
If the US government blocks all states from using Neteller, neteller will start simply setting up multiple bank accounts to take funds.
If they don't 3 or 4 new companies will.
When paypal stopped gambling transactions, we got neteller, moneybookers, prepaidatm, citadel, swiftpay, egold, and about 5 others. Neteller was the best.
If for some reason Neteller says ok, we stop, 5 more would step up.
Also, this law will never be found constitutional. This will be the first time that a US law prevents people from sending money to another country with which we do not have an embargo.
YOu can be arrested for buying drugs and shipping them here, but the bank has no legal right to stop you from sending the payment.
If this bill passes, what will really be toast will be forums - no one will post about their activities anymore.
-Sean
