The "Russian Tanker" theory holds true again in tennis

GreenDoberman · Aug 30, 2006

I came up with this theory that the Russian mob makes one of the big name women's tennis stars tank in the opening round of each Major. As long as you can pick her out or even spread your money around, a major underdog is sure to get you the cheese.

This time the patsy was Myskina as she throws in a lifeless 4-6, 2-6 performance.

I stil have a few others pending, but this will lock up a nice profit for the first round.

Puccini · Aug 30, 2006

Who was it at Wimbledon?

GreenDoberman · Aug 30, 2006

Puccini,
Kirilenko took the dive in England.

winbet · Aug 30, 2006

I hope this doesnt spread to Chelsea :smoker2:

GreenDoberman · Aug 30, 2006

I believe the Chelsea boys already made their tanking performance.

altice · Aug 30, 2006

GreenDoberman said:
Puccini,
Kirilenko took the dive in England.

Are you kidding me with Kirilenko??? She's horrible. She has lost to everyone in the last 3 months. She's one of the hottest girls yes, but her losing in the 1st round was not surprising. Hell I am a big fan of hers and I was fearful she would lose to another pathetic player like Schruff yesterday.

Who was the tanker in the French?

And have you even seen Azarenka play or even done even a bit research or seen the head to head between Myskina and Azarenka? I would think a tennis sharp like you would at least do that. Their matches aren't that lopsided. In fact she took her to 3 sets on clay, the same surface Myskina won her only Grand Slam this year. I saw here at the US Open last year and she won the juniors tournament and she can play. She is an upcoming star along with Radwanska. There was no suspicious line movement. Myskina had a foot injury and mentioned it in many interviews. She's a headcase to begin with. She lost to Santangelo last week who's worthelss on hard courts and had a bad hardcourt season, got destroyed by Zheng in semis in Stockholm(was that a fix too??!). There was tremendous value on Azarenka for these resons. And Myskina, like Schnyder, tends to give up in matches.

And I am sure the Russian mafia sits around and says, hmm loansharking, bookmaking, I know fixing women's tennis and let's do it on a Wimbledon 1st round match between Kirelenko and Asagoe. How many people bet on that match? And for the record there was no line movement on this. To those who follow tennis, this wasn't a shock AT ALL. In tennis you have noone to rely on. And if you are not physically and/or mentally there, you can lose just like in boxing.

Maybe there are fixes in men's tennis, but gimme a break about this Russian tanker theory in women's tennis.

GreenDoberman · Aug 30, 2006

Altice,
Honestly I was more joking about the Russian mob. There is a pattern of big Russian faves losing in the first round of majors. Whether it's matchups, makeup, or other is irrelevant. It is a money making opportunity.

GreenDoberman · Aug 30, 2006

It was Dementieva in the Aussie Open. I remember she was around -1200 to -1500 over Schruff.

altice · Aug 30, 2006

Sorry man. I overreacted. I just tend to think Russian women are the hottest on the planet so I thought you were being serious. And since I am practically stalking Dementieva, I would like to think I know my Russians. LOL. There definitely is a pattern though. Dementieva in Australia, Kuznetsova in the US last year too. Good luck today. Congrats if you played Azarenka. I was too much of a p*ssy to play her.

GreenDoberman · Aug 30, 2006

They are very nice looking women, but they will break you if you lay those big numbers in the opening rounds.

It seems that if you just fade the 5 or 6 top ones, you'll be almost assured to hit at least one at +1000 or better.

Might not hold true, but it is 4 for 4 this year.

Would be interesting to run a database of some of the smaller tier tournaments to see the results.

altice · Aug 30, 2006

The top 3 of the Chinese are very consistent. The Russians are very inconsistent. I have a pretty good database of results just not lines for tournaments for previous years.

Off the top of my head, I think Myskina lost in opening round to Radwanska and Petrova can't beat anyone since her injury. Wonder if it continues today. She's got a gift draw to the quarters.

The_Man · Aug 30, 2006

what is your opinion on the ginepri line tonight?

thinking about putting something on benneteau +253 maybe.

where does ginepri get off as a 270+ fav?

altice · Aug 30, 2006

Hope you are asking Green D. I am the best men's tennis fade on the planet. Absolutely worthless at it. I concentrate primarily on the women's game now. Hope who posts in the Global forum is one of the best tennis cappers I have come across on these boards and posts a lot of helpful info on both the women's and men's game.

Santo · Aug 30, 2006

Lines are my problem in building a database also. Results are fairly easy to obtain.

altice · Aug 30, 2006

Santo,

Email the guys at tip-ex. I emailed the head guy when I was looking for that stuff and he's willing to provide it for a pretty nominal cost. I didn't follow up on it since to me information is so much more valuable than line history when betting tennis and the lines can be vastly different in a span of weeks. I hit Ivanovic against Hingis like you did pretty good, but I guarantee you you won't get +230'ish on Ivanovic if they play in the quarters.

GreenDoberman · Aug 30, 2006

Sharapova is up now against little Krackerjack. I had included her in the mix, even though now I don't need her but it would be ridiculous.

BTW, even though she's Slovakian I sometimes throw Hantuchova in the mix here as she is wildly inconsistent.

altice · Aug 30, 2006

Typical 1st set by Hantuchova. Up 5-1. Then lets Mattek come back and even it up at 5-5. Then wins 7-5. She cracks me up.

Hope1 · Aug 30, 2006

In fact she took her to 3 sets on clay, the same surface Myskina won her only Grand Slam this year. I saw here at the US Open last year and she won the juniors tournament and she can play. She is an upcoming star along with Radwanska.

agreed Altice, very sharp post as usual. Azarenka and A Radwanska are fantastic young talents. They both hit the ball a TON. Azarenka has to learn to control her emotions, if things don't go her way, she goes nuts out there, unforced errors galore. She was seen crying at New Haven

uppy: . Both MUST develop mentally. Radswanska is currently pissing her match away vs Yan. Difficult to back players like these. They're Sania Mirza clones:missingte

ps., Azarenka's goal was to hit the top 50 in 2006........ambitous gal

altice · Aug 30, 2006

Yeah future star was probably taking it too far but both terrific talents. Azarenka has a Sharapova like intensity. I love when Europeans yell at themselves in their native language. Dementieva even does it in practice! I liked what I saw of Radswanska at Wimbledon against Pironkova and even Clijsters. She seems like a fighter. She did scare me a bit in the 2nd set, but didn't hurt that Yan kept her serve only once the whole match. What is with everyone crying during the matches? It's starting to become as common as taking a bathroom break when things aren't going your way. BTW, I didn't see the match but Pierce had some insane stats today.