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I keep thinking there is some BIG catch between the 2, is there?

Like for example with the Skybook offer. What are the posistives and negatives of these 2 offers?
 

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Freeplay means you get the winnings from the bet, but not the initial stake.

Bonus can be cash or freeplay or combination.
 

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$100 Freeplay at -110 ( and a winner) adds $90.91 cash to your balance, if it was +300 ( winner) account balance increases by $300, -200 fav adds $50, etc.

That's why you need long odds on freeplay.

I consider freeplay to be worth 75% of cash bonus
 

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Doug said:
Freeplay means you get the winnings from the bet, but not the initial stake.

Bonus can be cash or freeplay or combination.

so let me get this straight on a $100 Bonus Play, if I win at this book my account would go straight to cash as $100, not $100 for the freeplay and $100 for the win(total $200). So have to win bet to get the SAME amount into your cash side($100)?

So in reality the difference is bonus is already in account and is doubly as important as freeplay.
 

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Doug,

You shouldnt/can't scalp out a Bonus Play then can you? Am I confused?
 

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Iceman said:
so let me get this straight on a $100 Bonus Play, if I win at this book my account would go straight to cash as $100, not $100 for the freeplay and $100 for the win(total $200). So have to win bet to get the SAME amount into your cash side($100)?

So in reality the difference is bonus is already in account and is doubly as important as freeplay.

That's awkwardly worded.

The freeplay is gone when played, you get the profit of the bet if it wins, and that's it

at -110, think of the $100 as

0 to win $90.91

Play dogs, see other thread about using matchplay.
 

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Iceman said:
Doug,

You shouldnt/can't scalp out a Bonus Play then can you? Am I confused?

scalp it if you want to, or take a shot at big payoff if you want.

You can turn $100 freeplay into $75 cash, for sure

You could bet it on a +500 dog, and maybe win $500, etc.
 

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Doug said:
That's awkwardly worded.

The freeplay is gone when played, you get the profit of the bet if it wins, and that's it

at -110, think of the $100 as

0 to win $90.91

Play dogs, see other thread about using matchplay.

Yeah I did a bad job explaining my idea of how this worked.

Okay lets say I have a $100 Bonus Play at book A and want to bet a dog +110/100, if I win at this book than ONLY $110 extra will go into my account. It basically switches from the freeplay side to the cash BUT wouldn't I lose $100 at Book B (that i scalped with) and if so I would be still even? By I hope I explained this better
 

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iceman wtf are you talkin about?

wasnt the freeplay a gift? hence not laying anything on one side of the game?
 

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What I am getting at is when you scalp out a freeplay do you scalp it like a regular scalp?

Usually when you win a $100 bet when they refund your account with a winning bet you get the bet amount plus the the profit which is $200 or so in my above example. Doug is saying I only get $100 added into my account, right?
 

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true but you didnt lay anything on the freeplay in a sense

its 0/100 or 110/100 (u want this side to win)

repeat
 

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Iceman said:
Yeah I did a bad job explaining my idea of how this worked.

Okay lets say I have a $100 Bonus Play at book A and want to bet a dog +110/100, if I win at this book than ONLY $110 extra will go into my account. It basically switches from the freeplay side to the cash BUT wouldn't I lose $100 at Book B (that i scalped with) and if so I would be still even? By I hope I explained this better

You wouldn't play $100, you'd play less. You need like a +600 dog, then take back the fav at -700 so as to retain about $75 no matter what happens, or do the 3-team 8-way parlay, see other thread.

I had one for $50, put it on 2007 Minn Wild at 50-1

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I've always done a variation on that 8 three team parlay where one of the eight automatically wins. I'll find a game I like and play 4 three teamers (with my selection in each one). Of course I make sure that there can be no pushes. If my game is -110 and it wins, and the matchplay bonus is $100, I get back around $150, instead of $90.91 (or little more if you can get creative with dime lines). I've been doing this for several years whenever the situation arises (and the book isn't onto the method). It's certainly riskier than the automatic win, but you're gonna have to pick a winner sooner or later. You can do it with two 2 teamers, but the payout doesn't get maximized, although it's still better than a straight wager.
 

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Okay, I understand. I always thought it was EXACTLY like the reload bonus until I started reading the thread about the parlays you bumped last nite.

One more quick question:

Could you (or anyone else) set up a close to dead even scalp with the Mansion offer ($1,000 freeplay) and show an example so I TOTALLY understand this using the same line on the game (Pittsburgh -1 at both books for example). Thanks
 

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cut across shorty said:
I've always done a variation on that 8 three team parlay where one of the eight automatically wins. I'll find a game I like and play 4 three teamers (with my selection in each one). Of course I make sure that there can be no pushes. If my game is -110 and it wins, and the matchplay bonus is $100, I get back around $150, instead of $90.91 (or little more if you can get creative with dime lines). I've been doing this for several years whenever the situation arises (and the book isn't onto the method). It's certainly riskier than the automatic win, but you're gonna have to pick a winner sooner or later. You can do it with two 2 teamers, but the payout doesn't get maximized, although it's still better than a straight wager.

Many ways to do it, this is fine.

If the amount were larger ( say $1000) you could bet $10 each on 100 dogs of around +500 randomly selected, and hit enough to have about $750.

I often just break into a bunch of small parlays I like anyway ( something like 3 baseball sides/ totals), and just take what hits as my return for the FP.
 

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Iceman said:
Okay, I understand. I always thought it was EXACTLY like the reload bonus until I started reading the thread about the parlays you bumped last nite.

One more quick question:

Could you (or anyone else) set up a close to dead even scalp with the Mansion offer ($1,000 freeplay) and show an example so I TOTALLY understand this using the same line on the game (Pittsburgh -1 at both books for example). Thanks

If spread is the same you have 0 to win 1000 at Mansion,

Play 550 to win 500 somewhere, on Miami

If Pitts 1000-550= 450 Profit
If Miami you win 500, refund at Man.
 

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mansion

1100/1000 lose = 0 win = 1000

scalp

550/500 lose = -550 win = +500


guarantee 450-500$$$$
 

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