i understand the other touts complaints and beating.vegas has a thread in the rubber room. now i have only been on here since july but this guy is money who has a legion of followers. from what i seen and researched he has made ALOT of money for alot of people including the few plays i have followed. this guy who even says college isnt his strong suit and he posts plays and 30+ hrs later this guy has 17,000 views. unfucking real. i know 90% dont care if he went tout and im gonna bet if he sold his plays MANY players will follow. for all cappers its alot of work to break down games and release winners on a consistent basis. some people on here place bets for the excitement, some to get a few bucks and some see it as i do as an investment. go to charles schaub or td waterhouse tomorrow and see if you can get them to give out their service for free. this guy has nothing to prove to anyone. we all should be just happy to have him here helping out. like he said he still is going to give his plays to rxers for free. but if he did start charging you think people wont buy. bullshit! like i said its a smart investment for the kind of money you can make off the guy. if wil threw him down the tout room kodiak and all the others would get thrown out. this thread was mainly for the people who are pissed at ace for going tout and maybe sometime not being able to mooch on his plays. i say shame on all of ya!