I wouldn't trust any of the Indian casinos. I know people that won jackpots at these bullshit casinos only to be told that they cheated.
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SEMINOLE HARD ROCK CASINO
No payoff in jackpot dispute
A casino player will learn Friday if his 'Swipe & Win' at the Seminole Hard Rock is confirmed as a `Swipe & Lose.'
By ROBERTO SANTIAGO
rsantiago@MiamiHerald.com
<!-- begin body-content -->Freddy Howard had high hopes that his Wednesday meeting with officials of the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino would result in a big jackpot.
It didn't.
Instead, CEO Jim Allen told Howard and his attorney that the casino had hired an independent outside agency to examine Howard's claim that he won nearly $260,000 in a ''Swipe & Win'' progressive jackpot computer system on Aug. 29.
''They were kind enough to offer me nothing,'' Howard said after the 40-minute meeting with Allen.
''We cannot pay jackpots unless we have proper verification,'' said Allen, who admitted casino employees did not follow standard procedure to verify -- via the computer system -- that Howard won a prize.
''When you win, you win. And when you lose, you lose,'' Allen said in an afternoon press conference.
If the independent computer analysis decides that Howard did indeed win, Allen said he would sign the check for $259,945.75.
The analysis is expected to be completed on Friday, and that's when Howard will learn whether he's a winner or loser.
Neither side disputes the following series of events that took place:
After swiping his Player's Club card in a ''Swipe & Win'' kiosk, Howard saw words on the screen indicating he was a winner.
He approached casino employees, whowho congratulated him, had him sign promotional forms and photographed him holding a giant cardboard check with the amount of $259,945.75.
But 15 hours later, casino officials told Howard it was all a mistake, there was a computer glitch.
At dispute is what reallywas displayed on the computer screen after Howard swiped his card in the kiosk.
Howard said he and casino staff saw these words:
``Congratulations You've Just Won Progressive Winner.''
But casino officials say there was one all-important digit at the end of the message that everyone missed.
``Congratulations You've Just Won Progressive Winner $0.''
They gave Howard and his attorney a copy of what they said was flashed on the screen.
Howard's attorney, Keith Herbert, scoffed at the idea that the screen flashed a zero at the end of the message.
''What machine congratulates you for being a loser?'' Herbert asked.
Allen had no explanation why the ''Swipe & Win'' kiosk would display a winning message with a zero, according to spokesman Gary Bitner.
And no one offered an explanation of where casino employees got the $259,975.75 figure. The top prize given on the ''Swipe & Win'' kiosk was for that amount.
The Seminole Tribal Gaming Commission has hired Gaming Laboratories International, a respected firm that specializes in examining computer systems associated with gaming, to examine the computer system.
Allen also could not explain why casino employees did not follow standard procedure in verifying a win -- as they have done so numerous times since the casino opened in 2004.
Verification involves checking the log of the promotional computers progressive system and then getting approval from top casino executives.
''[The casino employees] became caught up in the excitement of the event,'' Allen explained.
Howard said Allen made no promises, other than vague suggestions that if he came back to gamble they would make him feel right at home.
''I was quite angry and disappointed,'' Howard said of his meeting with Allen.
Herbert said that if his client is told he is not getting any money that he may resort to his original idea: picket the casino with a copy of the large cardboard $259,945.75 check he was given with the words scrawled: Give Me A Real Check!
''You can't sue the Seminoles for getting your hopes up and then bringing them down,'' said Tampa attorney Jack Gordon, who has sued the Seminoles numerous times throughout the years.
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SEMINOLE HARD ROCK CASINO
No payoff in jackpot dispute
A casino player will learn Friday if his 'Swipe & Win' at the Seminole Hard Rock is confirmed as a `Swipe & Lose.'
By ROBERTO SANTIAGO
rsantiago@MiamiHerald.com
<!-- begin body-content -->Freddy Howard had high hopes that his Wednesday meeting with officials of the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino would result in a big jackpot.
It didn't.
Instead, CEO Jim Allen told Howard and his attorney that the casino had hired an independent outside agency to examine Howard's claim that he won nearly $260,000 in a ''Swipe & Win'' progressive jackpot computer system on Aug. 29.
''They were kind enough to offer me nothing,'' Howard said after the 40-minute meeting with Allen.
''We cannot pay jackpots unless we have proper verification,'' said Allen, who admitted casino employees did not follow standard procedure to verify -- via the computer system -- that Howard won a prize.
''When you win, you win. And when you lose, you lose,'' Allen said in an afternoon press conference.
If the independent computer analysis decides that Howard did indeed win, Allen said he would sign the check for $259,945.75.
The analysis is expected to be completed on Friday, and that's when Howard will learn whether he's a winner or loser.
Neither side disputes the following series of events that took place:
After swiping his Player's Club card in a ''Swipe & Win'' kiosk, Howard saw words on the screen indicating he was a winner.
He approached casino employees, whowho congratulated him, had him sign promotional forms and photographed him holding a giant cardboard check with the amount of $259,945.75.
But 15 hours later, casino officials told Howard it was all a mistake, there was a computer glitch.
At dispute is what reallywas displayed on the computer screen after Howard swiped his card in the kiosk.
Howard said he and casino staff saw these words:
``Congratulations You've Just Won Progressive Winner.''
But casino officials say there was one all-important digit at the end of the message that everyone missed.
``Congratulations You've Just Won Progressive Winner $0.''
They gave Howard and his attorney a copy of what they said was flashed on the screen.
Howard's attorney, Keith Herbert, scoffed at the idea that the screen flashed a zero at the end of the message.
''What machine congratulates you for being a loser?'' Herbert asked.
Allen had no explanation why the ''Swipe & Win'' kiosk would display a winning message with a zero, according to spokesman Gary Bitner.
And no one offered an explanation of where casino employees got the $259,975.75 figure. The top prize given on the ''Swipe & Win'' kiosk was for that amount.
The Seminole Tribal Gaming Commission has hired Gaming Laboratories International, a respected firm that specializes in examining computer systems associated with gaming, to examine the computer system.
Allen also could not explain why casino employees did not follow standard procedure in verifying a win -- as they have done so numerous times since the casino opened in 2004.
Verification involves checking the log of the promotional computers progressive system and then getting approval from top casino executives.
''[The casino employees] became caught up in the excitement of the event,'' Allen explained.
Howard said Allen made no promises, other than vague suggestions that if he came back to gamble they would make him feel right at home.
''I was quite angry and disappointed,'' Howard said of his meeting with Allen.
Herbert said that if his client is told he is not getting any money that he may resort to his original idea: picket the casino with a copy of the large cardboard $259,945.75 check he was given with the words scrawled: Give Me A Real Check!
''You can't sue the Seminoles for getting your hopes up and then bringing them down,'' said Tampa attorney Jack Gordon, who has sued the Seminoles numerous times throughout the years.
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