COVERING THE # in College football, the game is decided but not over, how many are..

Journeyman · Sep 15, 2006

After the game has been decided, how many of the players on that field are thinking about beating the point spread and know the exact number?

Team is up by 21, th line is 20, the entire 4th quarter is left, how many plaers that are involved in the game are trying to cover the number as added incentive on average around college football?

Half the players on the field? a few? all? the coaches? does the ref think about it?

It is an interesting question :suomi:

and I'm not so much talking about people who are betting on the game, just those that are aware and want to cover the spread...shoot, I know i would.

Journeyman · Sep 15, 2006

lasts nights game was a prime example, Md driving late , the cover on the line.

TTinCO · Sep 15, 2006

Players know the #. I'd say almost EVERY player.

The coaches are also well aware of it, and some of them are better than others at "taking care of" their boosters.

Fishhead · Sep 15, 2006

TTinCO said:
Players know the #. I'd say almost EVERY player.

The coaches are also well aware of it, and some of them are better than others at "taking care of" their boosters.

Being a NEBRASKA fan you should know this better than anyone.

Even though TOM OSBORNE is extremely against gambling in the HOUSE, he always made a point to try and cover the spread to make the boosters and alumni happy......................as a few other coaches have been known to do so also.

Quite honestly, this is very smart on their part to do this.

RacerX · Sep 15, 2006

Journeyman said:
lasts nights game was a prime example, Md driving late , the cover on the line.

No doubt....you notice when Maryland had the 4th and 1...they ran it and the crowd had a resounding BOOOO because of where the officials marked the ball?

I'm sure some were fans that were disappointed, but the majority of those boo birds laid the 17

Kornholio · Sep 15, 2006

I am friends with a guy who was a 4 year starter at a midmajor in basketball. He said they always looked at the lines and could pick like 75% from their conference though they didn't bet. He said once the game started he never thought about the line, ever.

Journeyman · Sep 15, 2006

I remember mentioning this to TT before about Dr Tom...I think he disagreed...I felt like Nebraska was one of those teams that was always well aware and tried harder than most to get the cover...Penn State being another one, Lou Holtz did this at Notre Dame too, and of course Spurrier.

I can remember Holtz throwing several times in games ,very late after laying low if the Irish had fallen under the number.

The worst I ever saw back in like 1996, Penn State/ Rutgers, Lions up by like 24, spread was around 28 , very last play of the game for Penn State, they had the ball at like their own 45, instead of running, they throw a bomb down the sidelines, of course they catch it and score, the Rutgers coach damn near attacked Paterno after the game.

ClipJoint · Sep 15, 2006

I played D1 football and can promise you most athletes know the number.

Anyone who doesn't think a college kid that struggles for laundry money wouldn't shave points is out of their mind. I am not saying throw a game. I am talking about situations where there are 2 TD or higher favorites. It is very easy to kill a drive in a blowout game to make sure you don't keep scoring.

mizagot · Sep 15, 2006

Clip Joint said:
I played D1 football and can promise you most athletes know the number.

Anyone who doesn't think a college kid that struggles for laundry money wouldn't shave points is out of their mind. I am not saying throw a game. I am talking about situations where there are 2 TD or higher favorites. It is very easy to kill a drive in a blowout game to make sure you don't keep scoring.

Excellent paragraph, my sentiments exactly. Assuming point-shaving occurs, then this is by far the most likely scenario.

Journeyman · Sep 15, 2006

I would think many would struggle pulling the trigger with larger spreads for this reason alone...among other very good reasons not to bet very high spread favorites.

Fishhead · Sep 15, 2006

Journeyman said:
I would think many would struggle pulling the trigger with larger spreads for this reason alone...among other very good reasons not to bet very high spread favorites.

...............better yet the reason to bet UNDERDOGS 90%+ of the time in NBA, CFB, NFL, NCAABB.

Betting UNDERDOGS is an INSTANT advantage to the player over the course of a career.

ClipJoint · Sep 15, 2006

I doubt there is much (if any) of this that goes on in professional sports because they don't need the money.

If you offer a college kid $10k to make sure his team doesn't win by a certain amount of points...again, not asking them to lose or throw a game...you would be amazed at how little it takes to get them to agree.

Journeyman · Sep 15, 2006

Clip Joint said:
I doubt there is much (if any) of this that goes on in professional sports because they don't need the money.

If you offer a college kid $10k to make sure his team doesn't win by a certain amount of points...again, not asking them to lose or throw a game...you would be amazed at how little it takes to get them to agree.

Dont forget the refs in the pros though...they very easily can control the totals, more or less whistles....I think about the refs a lot , especially those in an obscure games,,,, not hard at all.

Journeyman · Sep 15, 2006

Clip Joint said:
I doubt there is much (if any) of this that goes on in professional sports because they don't need the money.

If you offer a college kid $10k to make sure his team doesn't win by a certain amount of points...again, not asking them to lose or throw a game...you would be amazed at how little it takes to get them to agree.

One player can't always do it though...Do you know of any in particular?

Do you ever 'drop' a pass? :smoking:

Fishhead · Sep 15, 2006

Basketball MUCH easier for a player to throw a game.

Journeyman · Sep 15, 2006

Also wonder if they talk about the spread in the huddle....late in the game, knowing they need a stop and the cover is clinched, they can hear/feel the crowd rooting them and know exactly why....sometimes you can hear the crowd grown even when the actual game is not on the line....

My favorite was the time Lamar Odom while back at Rhode Island sank that half court three as time expired, at the final four to get the cover, the crowd let out this huge groan.

ClipJoint · Sep 15, 2006

Journeyman said:
Also wonder if they talk about the spread in the huddle....

No way.

The NCAA has spent big money on their anti-gambling campaigns within collegiate athletics. The gambling stuff is not discussed in the open. The most that will be said or used as motivation is something like "we are a 2 touchdown underdog" or something to that affect.

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