When do we put the bust label on ELI?

CHOPTALK · Sep 24, 2006

Will he ever be a top 15 QB in the LEAGUE.

Hes last in the draft class of the big names 3 years ago.

BIG BEN
Phillip Rivers

Hell even Matt Schabb can put up an argument for being rated above him.

When is everyone going to give SanDiego and there GM credit for making some of the smart draft picks and trades in the last 5 years.

They trade out of the #1 spot about 5 years ago for Atlantas 1 and 2. Instead of taking Vick, they get LT and Drew Brese.

3 Years ago, although maybe alittle forced, they trade Manning for Rivers and draft picks. They also got a power forward named Antonio Gates real late.

vermonthorseplayer · Sep 24, 2006

I put the moniker on him on draft day, never liked him in college and got hyped by the last name. period!!!!!!!

dmmd98 · Sep 24, 2006

Unreal, last week people are kissing his ass and now some people think he is awful. People read too much about players over one game.

Dante · Sep 24, 2006

I think he is pretty much a bust now I mean he could still improve but gams like this he has to preform

CHOPTALK · Sep 24, 2006

I mean you cant blame it on his supporting cast. You can make the case that he has more weapons than Rivers or Rothlesburger.

Hes loaded on offense. He has every weapon that any QB would ever lead.

He is not failing because of his team. His team is failing because of him.

Remember when they took Warner out of the starting lineup when they were 5-0?

What happened after that?

CHOPTALK · Sep 24, 2006

vermonthorseplayer said:
I put the moniker on him on draft day, never liked him in college and got hyped by the last name. period!!!!!!!

So did I. I think I posted that he was the worst QB drafted in the 1st round that season.

vermonthorseplayer · Sep 24, 2006

dmmd98 said:
Unreal, last week people are kissing his ass and now some people think he is awful. People read too much about players over one game.

Not me brother, Hated him since day 1

Over one game?? look at his carreer road stats
That being said i need 11.5 pts out of him in the 2nd half, lol

CHOPTALK · Sep 24, 2006

dmmd98 said:
Unreal, last week people are kissing his ass and now some people think he is awful. People read too much about players over one game.

1 game?

It sounds like you are the one reading too much into one game. He was had a hell of alot more games like today, than the one he had last week.

It sounds like you are the one reading too much into one game.

queposkid · Sep 24, 2006

Label him a goner now..Ridiculous they went out of their way to grab this kid..Nice player, but nothing special in my book..

vermonthorseplayer · Sep 24, 2006

unreal!!!

dmmd98 · Sep 24, 2006

CHOPTALK said:
1 game?

It sounds like you are the one reading too much into one game. He was had a hell of alot more games like today, than the one he had last week.

It sounds like you are the one reading too much into one game.

I am not the one making posts bitching about the kid....he had many games where he has played well. He did lead this team to the playoffs last year. Why don't you just reference your post but saying im blowing off stream cause I bet the Giants and now im mad. The kid played a great game last week and now you are comparing him too Matt Schabb who hasn't done anything in the league yet. Also if you haven't noticed he is playing the NFC champs which they had to travel cross country to play, it isn't like he is playing a bad team there.

Also name me 15 QB's in this league now that you rather have aside from Eli by the way?

CHOPTALK · Sep 24, 2006

dmmd98 said:
I am not the one making posts bitching about the kid....he had many games where he has played well. He did lead this team to the playoffs last year. Why don't you just reference your post but saying im blowing off stream cause I bet the Giants and now im mad. The kid played a great game last week and now you are comparing him too Matt Schabb who hasn't done anything in the league yet. Also if you haven't noticed he is playing the NFC champs which they had to travel cross country to play, it isn't like he is playing a bad team there.

Also name me 15 QB's in this league now that you rather have aside from Eli by the way?

So what, hes had a few good games in his career.

So has Aaron Brooks. Heck I remember one time Ryan Leaf had a good game once.

His team has Super Bowl talent. If the Giants dont absolutly run away with the NFC east, its because of him.

I can make you the case with stats, that not only are there 15 qbs better, but probably 20 or more!!!!!!!

vermonthorseplayer · Sep 24, 2006

Poor Eli

dmmd98 · Sep 24, 2006

Name them then....Name me 20 QB's in this league you'd rather have then a bust Eli. The only problem with Eli is his last name

EveryGamblersDream · Sep 24, 2006

This is only his 3rd year! The bullshit problem with this league is how they expect QB's to be able to do everything in such a short time. Only once in awhile do you have a QB adapt that quickly to the league. The QB position takes years to master & he is still growing!

Dawoofdaddy · Sep 24, 2006

CHOPTALK said:
Will he ever be a top 15 QB in the LEAGUE.

Name 15 current NFL QB that are better than Eli Manning.

This is such a dumb thread, its probably not worthy of further response.

royboy_3831 · Sep 24, 2006

CHOPTALK said:
So what, hes had a few good games in his career.

So has Aaron Brooks. Heck I remember one time Ryan Leaf had a good game once.

His team has Super Bowl talent. If the Giants dont absolutly run away with the NFC east, its because of him.

I can make you the case with stats, that not only are there 15 qbs better, but probably 20 or more!!!!!!!

settle down chop, i know it sucks to be on the wrong side of games like this, but you're being ridiculous now... in case you haven't noticed, eli does not play in the giants pitiful secondary and even their d-line is struggling, no one is running away with the nfc east, especially the giants, no matter the qb... gl man

CHOPTALK · Sep 24, 2006

Not in this order

1)Dante Culpepper
2)Steve Mcnair
3)B Leftwich
4)Jake Delhome
5)Brett Farve
6)Peyton Manning
7)Drew Brese
8)Matt Haselback
9)David Carr
10)Donavan Mcnabb
11)Kurt Warner
12)Mark Bulger
13)Chad Pennington
14)Tom Brady
15)Carson Palmer
16)Ben Rothlesberger
17)Micheal Vick
18)Rex Grossman
19)Aaron Brooks ( Dont dare argue with this one. I will smoke you with the stats.
20) Phillip Rivers

This is not counting people like Vince Young and Matt Lineart, and Matt Schabb who I also think will prove to be better once they get on the field.

Rev_Al · Sep 24, 2006

dumb thread.

CHOPTALK · Sep 24, 2006

I think what people dont get is the fact that the Giants are potentially a great football team. People dont understand that.

They are loaded on offense. People need to understand that. Name one weapon the guy does not have?

When do we put the bust label on ELI?

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