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If this isn't as obvious as it gets, you have Miguel Tejada who was arguably the best player in baseball dating back 2-3 yrs, who went from a decent player to one of the very best with major pop in his bat....Brian Roberts did his best Brady Anderson immitaion hitting like 12 homers in the first month of 2005....and Jay Gibbons who was one of the more muscular players in baseball hitting 26 homers last year and 13 this season...

of course all 3 deny it...maybe Raffy was innocent , it was Tejada's fault :missingte
 

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Clemens, Others Implicated in Banned Drug Case
Seven-time Cy Young Award winner is among six players accused by a former teammate of using performance-enhancing drugs
By Lance Pugmire and Tim Brown, Times Staff Writers
8:32 PM PDT, September 30, 2006

Roger Clemens, 44, one of professional baseball's most durable and successful pitchers, is among six players accused by a former teammate of using performance-enhancing drugs, The Times has learned. The names had been blacked out in an affidavit filed in federal court.

Others whose identities had been concealed include Clemens' fellow Houston Astros pitcher, Andy Pettitte, and former American League Most Valuable Player Miguel Tejada of the Baltimore Orioles.

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The discovery ends four months of speculation surrounding the possible identities of Major League Baseball figures whose names were redacted from a search warrant affidavit filed in Phoenix on May 31. The document was based on statements made to federal agents by pitcher Jason Grimsley.

Grimsley, a journeyman relief pitcher who has played on several teams including the New York Yankees, Baltimore Orioles and the Angels, acknowledged using steroids, amphetamines and other drugs, investigators said in the document. He also implicated a number of former teammates, but the names were blacked out in copies of the affidavit that were made public in June after investigators used the warrant to raid Grimsley's house.

A source with authorized access to an unredacted affidavit allowed The Times to see it, but retained it to read back what had been blacked out of the public copies. A second source and confidante of Grimsley had previously disclosed player identities and provided additional details about the affidavit. The sources insisted on anonymity.

According to the affidavit, Grimsley told investigators that Clemens and Pettitte "used athletic performance-enhancing drugs." He also said Tejada used anabolic steroids.

Clemens and Pettitte did not respond to requests for comment made Saturday through their agents and the Astros. Tejada had previously declined to be interviewed.

Grimsley was detained after he allegedly received an illegal shipment of human growth hormones. The shipment was tracked to his Scottsdale, Ariz., home by a task force of federal agents investigating drug use in professional baseball, the affidavit said.

For a time, Grimsley secretly cooperated with investigators, they said, but stopped after retaining a lawyer.

According to the 20-page search warrant affidavit signed by IRS Special Agent Jeff Novitzky, Grimsley told investigators he obtained amphetamines, anabolic steroids and human growth hormones from a source recommended to him by former Yankee trainer Brian McNamee. The former team trainer is a personal strength coach for both Clemens and Pettitte.

McNamee did not return multiple messages left with his wife and on his answering machine.

The affidavit also alleges that Grimsley told federal agents that his former Oriole teammates -- Tejada, Brian Roberts and Jay Gibbons -- "took anabolic steroids." Roberts was the American League's All-Star second baseman in 2005 when Grimsley was an Oriole.

All three Baltimore players declined to be interviewed. Roberts said he had "nothing to talk about" and didn't know why Grimsley named him. A sixth player, retired outfielder David Segui previously came forward to say that his name was among those blacked out in the affidavit provided to the public. Segui told ESPN in June that he used HGH on the advice of his doctor as recently as the 2004 season. He did not obtain approval from the league, he acknowledged.

Government officials have declined to comment about either their ongoing investigation of drugs in professional baseball.

Clemens, a seven-time Cy Young Award winner who came out of retirement to pitch for the Astros in each of the last two years, was a teammate of Grimsley on the Yankees in 1999-2000, as was Pettitte, a two-time All-Star who is nearing 200 career wins. Grimsley, Tejada, Gibbons and Roberts were teammates in Baltimore during the 2005 season.

Grimsley started this year with the Arizona Diamondbacks, but requested voluntary retirement in June after his arrest. The National League also suspended him for 50 games. Edward Novak, Grimsley's lawyer, did not return calls. Previously, he publicly disputed the claims investigators made the affidavit, saying that his client did not volunteer the names of any teammates. He said federal agents asked Grimsley to wear a recording device to gather evidence against San Francisco Giants slugger Barry Bonds, but Grimsley refused.

Grimsley has not been charged. Since June, he has complained to friends that federal agents credited him with statements and disclosures he didn't make.

"Jason is loyal to the death, a hard-headed guy who would not give up his friends," one of Grimsley's friends said Saturday. "The only names he discussed with those investigators were names ... [the investigators] suggested to him."

The Grimsley friend, who talked about the investigation on condition that he was not named, said investigators warned the pitcher "if he didn't continue to cooperate, they would expose him as a rat."

Richard Levin, a spokesman for Major League Baseball, said the organization and players association are "doing everything we can to eliminate the use of performance-enhancing substances and amphetamines from the game."
 

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it's about time Clemens' name was tossed into the fray. It's like the media's little secret and nobody wants to be the one to "out" the great Rocket
 

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whormoan said:
it's about time Clemens' name was tossed into the fray. It's like the media's little secret and nobody wants to be the one to "out" the great Rocket

very true, and he's another player who seems to be getting better with age.
 

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Of course, dumbass Houston keeps paying him $500 million per year to come out of retirement. A lot of good that did for them this year.
 
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Journeyman said:
Brian Roberts did his best Brady Anderson immitaion hitting like 12 homers in the first month of 2005

so true :missingte
 

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The Astros had a few players using steroid. Ken Camminti, jeff Bagwell, Luis Gonzalez, Now The Rocket and Pettite. Also knew there was somthing in that Rocket fuel.
 

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nhoj said:
The Astros had a few players using steroid. Ken Camminti, jeff Bagwell, Luis Gonzalez, Now The Rocket and Pettite. Also knew there was somthing in that Rocket fuel.

Sharp naming Gonzo. He has also been left out of the fray because he is considered such a good guy. Add Steve Finley and Kevin Brown to that list
 

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glad some other names are coming out.
for the last 2 years, its been barry bonds only.
complete BS. probably 1/3 to 1/2 of mlb players used steroids.
 

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The HGH David Segui used must have been bunk because he stank when he was with the O's.
 

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red007 said:
glad some other names are coming out.
for the last 2 years, its been barry bonds only.
complete BS. probably 1/3 to 1/2 of mlb players used steroids.

Bonds will continue to get most of the heat though because he is a prick...but there is no denying he is one of the best ever. :toast:
 

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Barry is being treated unfairly, there is no difference between him and Clemens and we ALL have known this. Bonds is a top 3 player all time...I don't even like him but I cant deny that fact...He may very well be the best ever.
 

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I like Barry, he is a cool guy as wea saw on Bonds on Bonds. Bonds doesnt get along wth jerks like Leyland and Kent, so what.
 

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Who's to say Nolan Ryan didn't do performance enhancers back in the early 90's? He had 261 wins at age 40...and finished with 320+ wins....If Ryan had finished with 260 wins and 255 losses , which was his record around age 40, would he have been thought of in the same light? I don't think so, his legend grew a whole lot in those last 5 years with TEXAS of all teams. the same TEXAS where Jose Canseco and Pudge and Juan and Raffy were all doing steroids.
 

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I think Nolan Ryan was on the juice.

How does he have his best 3 years hit walk ratio at age 42-43-44 a full 10% better than he was in the lighter hitting national league ?

That Rangers organization had a lot of juicers too...it makes sense.

:nopityA: he was a 500 pitcher for most of his amazing career, goes to Tex and finds the fountain of youth at age 41.

:lolBIG: it was just the advil.
 

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Clemens, Others Implicated in Banned Drug Case
Seven-time Cy Young Award winner is among six players accused by a former teammate of using performance-enhancing drugs
By Lance Pugmire and Tim Brown, Times Staff Writers
8:32 PM PDT, September 30, 2006

Roger Clemens, 44, one of professional baseball's most durable and successful pitchers, is among six players accused by a former teammate of using performance-enhancing drugs, The Times has learned. The names had been blacked out in an affidavit filed in federal court.

Others whose identities had been concealed include Clemens' fellow Houston Astros pitcher, Andy Pettitte, and former American League Most Valuable Player Miguel Tejada of the Baltimore Orioles.

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The discovery ends four months of speculation surrounding the possible identities of Major League Baseball figures whose names were redacted from a search warrant affidavit filed in Phoenix on May 31. The document was based on statements made to federal agents by pitcher Jason Grimsley.

Grimsley, a journeyman relief pitcher who has played on several teams including the New York Yankees, Baltimore Orioles and the Angels, acknowledged using steroids, amphetamines and other drugs, investigators said in the document. He also implicated a number of former teammates, but the names were blacked out in copies of the affidavit that were made public in June after investigators used the warrant to raid Grimsley's house.

A source with authorized access to an unredacted affidavit allowed The Times to see it, but retained it to read back what had been blacked out of the public copies. A second source and confidante of Grimsley had previously disclosed player identities and provided additional details about the affidavit. The sources insisted on anonymity.

According to the affidavit, Grimsley told investigators that Clemens and Pettitte "used athletic performance-enhancing drugs." He also said Tejada used anabolic steroids.

Clemens and Pettitte did not respond to requests for comment made Saturday through their agents and the Astros. Tejada had previously declined to be interviewed.

Grimsley was detained after he allegedly received an illegal shipment of human growth hormones. The shipment was tracked to his Scottsdale, Ariz., home by a task force of federal agents investigating drug use in professional baseball, the affidavit said.

For a time, Grimsley secretly cooperated with investigators, they said, but stopped after retaining a lawyer.

According to the 20-page search warrant affidavit signed by IRS Special Agent Jeff Novitzky, Grimsley told investigators he obtained amphetamines, anabolic steroids and human growth hormones from a source recommended to him by former Yankee trainer Brian McNamee. The former team trainer is a personal strength coach for both Clemens and Pettitte.

McNamee did not return multiple messages left with his wife and on his answering machine.

The affidavit also alleges that Grimsley told federal agents that his former Oriole teammates -- Tejada, Brian Roberts and Jay Gibbons -- "took anabolic steroids." Roberts was the American League's All-Star second baseman in 2005 when Grimsley was an Oriole.

All three Baltimore players declined to be interviewed. Roberts said he had "nothing to talk about" and didn't know why Grimsley named him. A sixth player, retired outfielder David Segui previously came forward to say that his name was among those blacked out in the affidavit provided to the public. Segui told ESPN in June that he used HGH on the advice of his doctor as recently as the 2004 season. He did not obtain approval from the league, he acknowledged.

Government officials have declined to comment about either their ongoing investigation of drugs in professional baseball.

Clemens, a seven-time Cy Young Award winner who came out of retirement to pitch for the Astros in each of the last two years, was a teammate of Grimsley on the Yankees in 1999-2000, as was Pettitte, a two-time All-Star who is nearing 200 career wins. Grimsley, Tejada, Gibbons and Roberts were teammates in Baltimore during the 2005 season.

Grimsley started this year with the Arizona Diamondbacks, but requested voluntary retirement in June after his arrest. The National League also suspended him for 50 games. Edward Novak, Grimsley's lawyer, did not return calls. Previously, he publicly disputed the claims investigators made the affidavit, saying that his client did not volunteer the names of any teammates. He said federal agents asked Grimsley to wear a recording device to gather evidence against San Francisco Giants slugger Barry Bonds, but Grimsley refused.

Grimsley has not been charged. Since June, he has complained to friends that federal agents credited him with statements and disclosures he didn't make.

"Jason is loyal to the death, a hard-headed guy who would not give up his friends," one of Grimsley's friends said Saturday. "The only names he discussed with those investigators were names ... [the investigators] suggested to him."

The Grimsley friend, who talked about the investigation on condition that he was not named, said investigators warned the pitcher "if he didn't continue to cooperate, they would expose him as a rat."

Richard Levin, a spokesman for Major League Baseball, said the organization and players association are "doing everything we can to eliminate the use of performance-enhancing substances and amphetamines from the game."


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