is that when the government realizes that this isn't going to work near as inexpensively or as well as they were hoping for, that they will be more stern in trying to get the wire act changed next year. They are VERY stubborn people and do not take getting embarrassed kindly and will do everything in their power show that they "won". Is this a valid concern?
sure, #1 thing US govt LOVES, just LOVES to do is CRUSH anyone or anything or country that tries to stand up to it.
It makes no difference whether the US govt is in the wrong. they simply DONT CARE if they are. But its a huge circle jerk for them when they run over a little guy.
the use of POWER is what drove these two bit criminals, idiots, losers, & pediphiles to get into politics
It makes no difference whether the US govt is in the wrong. they simply DONT CARE if they are. But its a huge circle jerk for them when they run over a little guy.
the use of POWER is what drove these two bit criminals, idiots, losers, & pediphiles to get into politics
As long as Goodlatte is in the House, it is a concern.
Most likely they will want to give this 2 or 3 years to take effect as after 270 days, banks will need more time to get up to speed.
Remember most in government could care less about internet gambling - for or against. The problem is it only takes one nut if he has the party in the majority to slam something through...
If you vote vote democrat. I could care less about dems or reps, but I know the only clowns who will bring up internet gambling are republicans (Goodlatte, Leach, Kyl) and if one side of congress is democrat no law they bring up will go through.
Sean
Most likely they will want to give this 2 or 3 years to take effect as after 270 days, banks will need more time to get up to speed.
Remember most in government could care less about internet gambling - for or against. The problem is it only takes one nut if he has the party in the majority to slam something through...
If you vote vote democrat. I could care less about dems or reps, but I know the only clowns who will bring up internet gambling are republicans (Goodlatte, Leach, Kyl) and if one side of congress is democrat no law they bring up will go through.
Sean
unless these conservative idiots get voted out of power and they realize cowtowing to the religious zealouts in this country was a mistake and got them out of the mainstream and caused them to get voted out.
the backlash from all the Johnny six pack poker players and all the sports gameblers, if they unite and vote these strict conservative clowns out of office will be noticed.
voting them out of office that really is the only thing shitbrains like Frist understand and other conservative politicians still in office will drop outlawing internet gaming concerns like a hot potato
the backlash from all the Johnny six pack poker players and all the sports gameblers, if they unite and vote these strict conservative clowns out of office will be noticed.
voting them out of office that really is the only thing shitbrains like Frist understand and other conservative politicians still in office will drop outlawing internet gaming concerns like a hot potato
Mr. Smith said:
It's important to remember that while this is a big deal to us, its not exactly the top priority--or even *a* top priority--of the Federal Government and the average politician. There are guys like Kyl and Goodlatte that have a boner for it, but they've been that way for years. The reason that Frist had to sneak this on to a last minute piece of legislation that was tough to vote again because it dealt with national security is *because* no one else for a number of years has considered it a big enough priority to deal with directly.
Nothing has changed in this regard--this wasn't a victory for the "ban sports gambling" issue, at least from an intellectual standpoint. It was a victory for Frist and his ability to subvert the parlimentary process to further his personal agenda.
Check out any of the mainstream news sites--you may see an article or some coverage, but it remains a very small issue. And it'll be a very low priority for the Federal government and other politicians going forward.
politicians wont be enforcing it, banks will.
lets say
person takes $3347 check to bank to deposit. clerk sees "betjamaica" on check. clerk probably will be informed when hired they cant take these kinds of checks. chance the clerk has ANY training whatsoever as to what to do next-100% no they do not.
so they give it to the bank manager. chance, other than knowing this is illegal, the bank manager has received any training whatsoever as to what to do next-near 100% they have no idea either.
so what do they do? maybe call higher ups, maybe call police, local prosecutor or fbi to report a customer doing an illegal transaction. ( that this gambling bill doesnt make what the customer did illegal is irrelevant. the bank manager wont REALIZE that, he will just have heard he cant take these checks and its illegal.
local prosecutor, police or fbi may arrest customer within a few days. customer will suffer a lot of stress and need a lawyer to clear himself. customer should be able to win in court if it goes that far. then again, so should Jay C.
my point- the bankers and local authorities will have NO TRAINING as to how to handle these situations and surely will never have read the new act and will not know what is legal or illegal under it.
I predict a clusterfuck. And some gamblers could go to jail....:howdy:
lets say
person takes $3347 check to bank to deposit. clerk sees "betjamaica" on check. clerk probably will be informed when hired they cant take these kinds of checks. chance the clerk has ANY training whatsoever as to what to do next-100% no they do not.
so they give it to the bank manager. chance, other than knowing this is illegal, the bank manager has received any training whatsoever as to what to do next-near 100% they have no idea either.
so what do they do? maybe call higher ups, maybe call police, local prosecutor or fbi to report a customer doing an illegal transaction. ( that this gambling bill doesnt make what the customer did illegal is irrelevant. the bank manager wont REALIZE that, he will just have heard he cant take these checks and its illegal.
local prosecutor, police or fbi may arrest customer within a few days. customer will suffer a lot of stress and need a lawyer to clear himself. customer should be able to win in court if it goes that far. then again, so should Jay C.
my point- the bankers and local authorities will have NO TRAINING as to how to handle these situations and surely will never have read the new act and will not know what is legal or illegal under it.
I predict a clusterfuck. And some gamblers could go to jail....:howdy:
person takes $3347 check to bank to deposit. clerk sees "betjamaica" on check. clerk probably will be informed when hired they cant take these kinds of checks. chance the clerk has ANY training whatsoever as to what to do next-100% no they do not.
There are so many things wrong with this statement that I do not know where to begin.
1. Betjamaica does not put betjamaica on their checks. I know of no betting company that does
2. Bankers don't even look at checks. If you drop a batch checks in the ATM, you can deposit a check to Jack Smith if your name is Mike Brown.
-sean
There are so many things wrong with this statement that I do not know where to begin.
1. Betjamaica does not put betjamaica on their checks. I know of no betting company that does
2. Bankers don't even look at checks. If you drop a batch checks in the ATM, you can deposit a check to Jack Smith if your name is Mike Brown.
-sean
Again - Mr. Smith you have no idea what the hell you are talking about... FBI? Cops? getting arrested? Please tell me where in the fuck this is even brought up in the bill?
Please stop these posts - because you have no idea what you are talking about, and in this case you should not be posting anything about this subject.
Please stop these posts - because you have no idea what you are talking about, and in this case you should not be posting anything about this subject.
sean1 said:
I have bet on 2 sure things. One was a winner. Cincy beat Boston in the WS.
The other was a loser Colts lost to the Jets in SB.
The dems could have a nut case too. The area of the country where Goodlatte comes from is THE BIBLE BELT! Wouldn't matter what party he was as long as he did all the so called "religious " things one is supposed to do.
Some here think this is soley about money. The die hard religious folks GIVE 10% of all to the church. God told them to do this in his book somewhere. That comes 1st!
I've never understood how they justify a night called Halloween or "Trick or Treat".
Mr. Smith said:
Wow you really don't know how the law works do you? If you get a check from even a reputed drug dealer, there is no proof of a crime. You might create suspicion and the police might investigate you, but there are hundreds of crimes a day they can investigate and don't. The vast majority of police departments don't really care if you gamble illegally. Every now and then they decide to send out some sort of "message" and go bust up a bookie or a poker game and then they give some stern message that illegal gambling won't be tolerated. Even then they have to investigate and then witness a crime being committed. In most states its not illegal to make a bet, just to take them.
This is yet another crazed overreaction to what will happen. What will really happen? Damn next to nothing. Count on that.
SBBC said:
Agreed...some of you need to get out and get some sunshine and fresh air or something. I know we're a little myopic on this issue since we're immersed in it but sports betting--offshore or otherwise--is so far down the priority list of the Federal government, the politicans, law enforcement the banking industry and everyone else involved in the enforcement and oversight process to barely register.
The religious right is a threat to our liberties on a philosophical level, no doubt, and they certainly have more power than they should. But they don't have anywhere near enough power to get the Federal Government, the FBI, the banking system and the court system to clear their plate of other issues to wage all out war on the sports gambler. It just ain't going to happen. You might as well suggest that Bush and Frist are preparing an army of cyborg assasins at their underground lair to go after sports gamblers....
