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she said she does not think that Bush is going to sign the bill that gambling bill is attatched to for some reason not totally happy with it.
I would flood the white house with letters opposing it.
There still is a chance he won't sign it.Maybe more letters saying your not happy with the homeland security portion of it sucks.Laura says she didn't think Bush was entirley happy with it.
Maybe if their is enough letters to him saying it sucks or goes to far or something will make him say fuck it.
 

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The part that Bush and the GOP isn't happy with--particularly with this being an election year--is this: The labor unions via their proxies in the Democratic Party stripped the bill of a number of provisions to keep convicted felons from working in sensitive port security jobs, and also eliminated a provision for background checks for all port personnel. I don't know if the GOP cares about the prevailing political winds vis a vis online betting, but should Bush not sign the bill he could make a big deal about how the Democratic Party is more interested in protecting their cronies in organized labor than in protecting Americans from terrorists and that unless you vote Republican we'll have an Al Qaeda sleeper cell in every American backyard blah blah blah....

It would be sorta ironic if Frist's blatant backdoor political manuever to get the anti-gambling stuff in the bill in the first place was made irrelevant by blatant political pandering on the part of the White House...

Personally, I think this scenario is at least plausable: the only issue that really has any traction for the GOP is national security and should they play it this way they can take a direct shot at the Democrats--and particularly Congressional Democrats--for being soft. I don't think that online gambling has anything to do with it but we may be the beneficiary of circumstances beyond our control
 

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da1prophet said:
The part that Bush and the GOP isn't happy with--particularly with this being an election year--is this: The labor unions via their proxies in the Democratic Party stripped the bill of a number of provisions to keep convicted felons from working in sensitive port security jobs, and also eliminated a provision for background checks for all port personnel. I don't know if the GOP cares about the prevailing political winds vis a vis online betting, but should Bush not sign the bill he could make a big deal about how the Democratic Party is more interested in protecting their cronies in organized labor than in protecting Americans from terrorists and that unless you vote Republican we'll have an Al Qaeda sleeper cell in every American backyard blah blah blah....

It would be sorta ironic if Frist's blatant backdoor political manuever to get the anti-gambling stuff in the bill in the first place was made irrelevant by blatant political pandering on the part of the White House...

Personally, I think this scenario is at least plausable: the only issue that really has any traction for the GOP is national security and should they play it this way they can take a direct shot at the Democrats--and particularly Congressional Democrats--for being soft. I don't think that online gambling has anything to do with it but we may be the beneficiary of circumstances beyond our control

Well said.
 

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The part that Bush and the GOP isn't happy with--particularly with this being an election year--is this: The labor unions via their proxies in the Democratic Party stripped the bill of a number of provisions to keep convicted felons from working in sensitive port security jobs, and also eliminated a provision for background checks for all port personnel. I don't know if the GOP cares about the prevailing political winds vis a vis online betting, but should Bush not sign the bill he could make a big deal about how the Democratic Party is more interested in protecting their cronies in organized labor than in protecting Americans from terrorists and that unless you vote Republican we'll have an Al Qaeda sleeper cell in every American backyard blah blah blah....

It would be sorta ironic if Frist's blatant backdoor political manuever to get the anti-gambling stuff in the bill in the first place was made irrelevant by blatant political pandering on the part of the White House...

Personally, I think this scenario is at least plausable: the only issue that really has any traction for the GOP is national security and should they play it this way they can take a direct shot at the Democrats--and particularly Congressional Democrats--for being soft. I don't think that online gambling has anything to do with it but we may be the beneficiary of circumstances beyond our control

Da prophet..outstanding post,very informative and great insight.
I agree totally the online gambling issue is a non factor in Bushes decision for passing of the bill which was my point (but you made the point much clearer then my attempt)
My thinking is to send emails and calls backing Bush on his hesitency to sign it based on concerns that you posted.
I have a feeling he vetoes it, and attacks the democrats for his reasons why, creating a issue before elections, and he is more apt to do it with public support.
 

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Pat Patriot said:
Da prophet..outstanding post,very informative and great insight.
I agree totally the online gambling issue is a non factor in Bushes decision for passing of the bill which was my point (but you made the point much clearer then my attempt)
My thinking is to send emails and calls backing Bush on his hesitency to sign it based on concerns that you posted.
I have a feeling he vetoes it, and attacks the democrats for his reasons why, creating a issue before elections, and he is more apt to do it with public support.

Yeah, it can't hurt....although Bush has been so hesitant to use his veto since he's been in office that my thinking is that he signs it. If I were working for the RNC I'd advise him to veto it for the reasons cited above--from where I stand it sure looks like a political no brainer that would allow him to look tough on homeland security and paint the labor unions and Democrats as weak...
 

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although Bush has been so hesitant to use his veto since he's been in office that my thinking is that he signs it.
Which is a newsmaker on its own.it would make for a big splash.

from where I stand it sure looks like a political no brainer that would allow him to look tough on homeland security and paint the labor unions and Democrats as weak...
Absolutley, and the pubs have been playing defense longer than the Raiders latley.
This would be a good time for him to go on the offensive.
What a twist this would be if Bush kills the bill that includes the unrelated gambling bill.
Good stuff prophet! Good lookin out.
 

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I think Bush has veto only one Bill so far as president on Stem cell research.
 

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Literally weeks before a close election and Bush might veto a security/port bill? Doesn't seem very likely.
 

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Pat Patriot said:
Which is a newsmaker on its own.it would make for a big splash.


Absolutley, and the pubs have been playing defense longer than the Raiders latley.
This would be a good time for him to go on the offensive.
What a twist this would be if Bush kills the bill that includes the unrelated gambling bill.
Good stuff prophet! Good lookin out.

Hey beyotch, watch the Raiders dissin'. Try the Bills.

Shrubya signs this piece of shit tomorrow.
 

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