Warning To Advertising Sites: Webstormmedia Stiffing Their Clients

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Well, I've remained quiet on this issue for a month and a half now, have attempted to resolve this situation directly with Webstormmedia (SIA's marketing company), and it appears the only resoltion will come through the Canadian court system.

As a few of you know I own a sports forum, I've never mentioned it here or in any other sports forum out of respect for those forums. It certainly doesn't receive the traffic of sites such as the Rx nor EOG, but we've been in business for 4+ years and have carved out a little "niche". When we first opened our forum our objectives were to have a sports forum were we could help people learn how to handicap games themselves and steer clear of suspect books as well as suspect services. We decided we would only accept advertising from "Top Tier" rated books, such as Pinnacle, Olympic, BetCris, WSEX, etc. Unfortunately at the beginning it was very difficult to get these top-tier books to advertise with a new, unproven sports forum.

A year after we had been online we had amassed a very nice group of very sharp handicappers and we decided to open a private forum, as well as keeping open a public (free) forum. The private forum did extremely well the first year and continues to generate enough revenue to pay the bills and generate profit.

In early August of this year I was contacted by a representative of Webstorm media, they are the marketing company that is responsible for placing Sports Interactions Ad's, and they were interested in advertising on my site. I was apprehensive at first in that SIA certainly is problematic at times and although good for wagering on underdogs, they're well known for closing acccounts if you bust them for 20K or more, you'll get paid, but you'll also be shown the door, I also let my forum members know this before they signed up. I spoke with both The Shrink and Bill Dozer before I accepted this advertising deal and Ken stated he had never had a problem, as far as an advertiser, with Webstorm, and Bill told me that SIA appeared as if they would be being upgraded to a C or C+ in the near future.

I decided to accept SIA's/Webstorms proposal which consisted of a 4 month agreement in which the last 3 months were dependant on the first 30 days activity/signups. Webstorm also had me agree to run a SIA promotion to my private forum in which I gave away private forum memberships in exchange for signups and minimum deposits to SIA of $100. I agreed and my forum acheived the minimum number of signups within the first 3 weeks. I agreed to this condition, which naturally cost me quite a bit of money in lost membership revenue the first month, which historically is our best month for sales, all because I would make money with the last 90 days of advertising.

I was told on September 20th by my Webstorm rep. that my money was being sent on the 22nd for the additional 90 days, it was not. I was then told it would be the following Friday, it was not. Since September 26th there has been no answer at Webstormmedia. They formerly had a receptionist, and all my voicemails to my rep. have went unanswered. My voicemails to the owner of Webstorm, Ilan, have went unanswered. My most recent e-mails to the marketing director for SIA in Ireland, Ruth Purcell, have went unanswered, although Ruth did tell me that SIA/Webstorm have decided to not forego any new contracts at the moment, but what does that have to do with my current, existing contract??

So, advertiser beware, SIA/Webstormmedia are giving advertisers the shaft. Guess I have no one else to blame but myself, the first somewhat questionable sportsbook that I decided to do advertising for and I get stiffed.
 
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Ralph,

I understand your frustration, but this an issue with Webstorm, not SIA. SIA decided to terminate their agreement with Webstorm for multiple reasons, and must now reevaluate every marketing deal that Webstorm committed to. I look at it this way – if my accountant was making questionable deals with my money, I would fire him and stop every deal he made, until I could check them out myself.

We are in the same position as you and are now dealing directly with SIA.

Thanks
Rick
 

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Stand in line....
Web Storm shafted a lot more people than just you :pucking:

The only part about SIA is they paid to have Web Storm represent them in the advertising deals and should take some of the blame for what happened. Some sites only allow a certain amount of advertisers so if they closed a deal with SIA thru Web Storm for football season it sucks even more.

From what I was told in the past is Web Storm puts together the proposals and runs them past people at SIA and they (SIA) make the final decision. Whether the Web Storm rep said this to take some of the burden off them when trying to work the deal (good cop vs bad cop) who knows. But if true, SIA would be the one who gave the final okay and thus should be responsible in my opinion.
 

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Mind you, I am a SIA fan, so this is not a anit-SIA post. Not the greatest when it comes to customer service, but they do not run and hide after you hit a few games or deal you dual lines. After you bang em up, they send you a nice email, followed by your money. Hard to complain about that.
 

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