Webb wins Cy Young - what a joke

whormoan · Nov 14, 2006

This cost me $$$. Guy got lit up by the Pads on the last day of the yr to win them the division and he pitched on a losing team with non-impressive #'s. Should've been Carpenter or Hoffy

MrCleo · Nov 14, 2006

wow, i thought Carpenter was basically a lock.

royalfan · Nov 14, 2006

they were basically the exact same pitcher. I would have leaned Carpenter based on them making the playoffs, but hard to argue either way. That being said, I am surprised Carp didn't win it.

glenrobinson · Nov 14, 2006

I had Carpenter for some change, BS pick by the Nat'l league, didn't want to give it to Carp two years in a row i guess...more dirty paper down the drain.

whormoan · Nov 14, 2006

15 1st place votes for Webb and just 2 for Carp. Something isn't right about that. Hoffman actually finished 2nd

Bennyshoe · Nov 14, 2006

That's just stupid. There was no real dominant pitcher in the NL but I gotta think Carpenter was a better choice than Webb.

Journeyman · Nov 14, 2006

Carpenter should have got it by default...Webb wasn't that great down the stretch , that is a little odd....keep in mind though the vote is taken at the end of regular season, post season doesn't count towards it....

Maybe the writers looked at the way STL finished and were turned off by the entire team.

Degenerate · Nov 14, 2006

Roy Oswalt deserved it.

Brock Landers · Nov 14, 2006

there was a stretch in august where Webb was HORRIBLE, Carpenter was the most dominant pitcher in the league at HOME at least, and pretty damn good on the road, plus his team made the playoffs at least. Worst Cy young winner in YEARS.

Fishhead · Nov 14, 2006

I feel bad for those that had CARPENTER with great future odds to win the award.

VIKING611 for one had a nice value wager on them.

TonyMar · Nov 14, 2006

Carpenter pissed away the Cy Young in September.

He had three pitiful starts that month...20innings, 30hits, 16er's.

Was a real bad time for Carpenter to pitch that badly... when the baseball writers were getting their three votes in order.

whormoan · Nov 14, 2006

Fishhead said:
I feel bad for those that had CARPENTER with great future odds to win the award.

VIKING611 for one had a nice value wager on them.

I had 10:1 probably at the same book (ezsportsbook)

JustWin · Nov 14, 2006

I can't see Hoffman winning the Cy Young over Webb, but Carp should have number 2 sitting on his mantle.

quantumleap · Nov 14, 2006

Webb pitched for a bad team and won games. Carp pitched for a good team and won games. Carp didn't accomplish as much as Webb.

HPark1 · Nov 14, 2006

Webb's numbers were on par and considering he pitches in a hitters park I think it was the right call.

whormoan · Nov 14, 2006

With Hoffman not winning this year, closers can pretty much forget ever winning this award unless their ERA is ZERO. Webb had decent numbers, but nothing overwhelming. He started the yr 8-0 and finished 8-8 on a non-playoff team. Meanwhile, Hoffman led the league in saves had an ERA around 2, became the all-time saves leader (I know it isn't a career award). 16 wins and an ERA over 3 gets you a CY YOUNG?

Cy Young is turning over in his grave today. If Carpenter had won, it would have at least been justified, as St Louis was not a playoff team without him.

Webb wins Cy Young - what a joke

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