Brilliant Charlie Weis

fro11 · Dec 1, 2006

great point made by mark may last nite
has big charlie beat a good team since he got to ND?
the answer is NO!

royboy_3831 · Dec 1, 2006

fro11 said:
great point made by mark may last nite
has big charlie beat a good team since he got to ND?
the answer is NO!

Here's one for you... Has Mark May made one "great point" since he was hired by espn??? The answer is Hell No!!!

FairWarning · Dec 1, 2006

Last I checked they spanked Penn St and they are going to a bowl. They beat Michigan at Ann Arbor last year at the beginning of the season too. Probably Weis' fault they didn't beat USC at home too.

Arodd · Dec 1, 2006

Mark May is and always will be a Notre Dame hater. I can't remember one positive thing he's said about the school. He is completley slighted.

As usual, ND lovers will be lovers, haters will be haters. Whatever floats your boat.

Arodd · Dec 1, 2006

FairWarning said:
Last I checked they spanked Penn St and they are going to a bowl. They beat Michigan at Ann Arbor last year at the beginning of the season too. Probably Weis' fault they didn't beat USC at home too.

yea and we all know how lucky USC was to escape with a win in that one...

FairWarning · Dec 1, 2006

Hey D, how long are you sticking around South Bend for? Have to get back down there before you leave.

fro11 · Dec 1, 2006

PSU did not beat a quaility team all yr(also dont play the "they are going to a bowl game" card, there are a ton of bowl games, all u have to be is 6-6 to go bowling, its a joke.) They beat michigan in ann arbor last yr, so what? did you see what michigans record was last yr???
FAT CHARLIE IS OVERRATED= FACT

FairWarning · Dec 1, 2006

This is for Mark May :bigfinger

August 06, 2005

2005 Preseason USA Today Coaches Poll

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1. Southern California (60) 13-0 1,547 1
2. Texas (2) 11-1 1,405 4
3. Tennessee 10-3 1,259 15
4. Michigan 9-3 1,242 12
5. Oklahoma 12-1 1,223 3
6. LSU 9-3 1,109 16
7. Virginia Tech 10-3 1,090 10
8. Miami (Fla.) 9-3 1,080 11
9. Ohio State 8-4 1,033 19
10. Iowa 10-2 1,014 8
11. Florida 7-5 910 25
12. Florida State 9-3 879 14
13. Georgia 10-2 838 6
14. Louisville 11-1 758 7
15. Auburn 13-0 723 2
16. Purdue 7-5 616 NR
17. Texas A&M 7-5 366 NR
18. Arizona State 9-3 304 20
19. Boise State 11-1 303 13
20. California 10-2 293 9
21. Texas Tech 8-4 247 17
22. Boston College 9-3 237 21
23. Virginia 8-4 210 23
24. Alabama 6-6 194 NR
25. Pittsburgh 8-4 193 NR

I believe Michigan was 4th when ND WON AT ANN ARBOR. I was at the game. That's what happens when you listen to ND haters such as Mark May.

Arodd · Dec 1, 2006

damn Fair i was at that game too, great times...stole a beer pong table while i was there as well haha. And I'll be in the 'Bend for another few weeks, probably until the 3rd week of December but I'll get in touch before I take off, another night at 'Backer might be in order.

Michigan's one glaring loss last year was to Minnesota 23-20 and Minny played out of their minds from what I recall. Losing at Wisconsin during Alvarez' last year? that's understandable. losing to OSU and ND? Yup, understandable. and the Nebraska bowl game was very well played.

Rev_Al · Dec 1, 2006

didnt Mark May predict ND would start 1-7 in Weiss' first season?

he's a douche

Illini · Dec 1, 2006

If you are gonna post a chart to support your argument, at least get the year right. ND beat Michigan at Ann Arbor in 2005, not 2004. Weiss wasn't even there in 2004.

WVU · Dec 1, 2006

FairWarning said:
This is for Mark May :bigfinger

August 06, 2005

2005 Preseason USA Today Coaches Poll

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1. Southern California (60) 13-0 1,547 1
2. Texas (2) 11-1 1,405 4
3. Tennessee 10-3 1,259 15
4. Michigan 9-3 1,242 12
5. Oklahoma 12-1 1,223 3
6. LSU 9-3 1,109 16
7. Virginia Tech 10-3 1,090 10
8. Miami (Fla.) 9-3 1,080 11
9. Ohio State 8-4 1,033 19
10. Iowa 10-2 1,014 8
11. Florida 7-5 910 25
12. Florida State 9-3 879 14
13. Georgia 10-2 838 6
14. Louisville 11-1 758 7
15. Auburn 13-0 723 2
16. Purdue 7-5 616 NR
17. Texas A&M 7-5 366 NR
18. Arizona State 9-3 304 20
19. Boise State 11-1 303 13
20. California 10-2 293 9
21. Texas Tech 8-4 247 17
22. Boston College 9-3 237 21
23. Virginia 8-4 210 23
24. Alabama 6-6 194 NR
25. Pittsburgh 8-4 193 NR

I believe Michigan was 4th when ND WON AT ANN ARBOR. I was at the game. That's what happens when you listen to ND haters such as Mark May.

It is hard to believe that the eventual SUGAR BOWL CHAMPIONS would not even make the pre-season rankings.

fro11 · Dec 1, 2006

this is not about mark may
i am not really fan of his
but he made a great point

Illini · Dec 1, 2006

Illini said:
If you are gonna post a chart to support your argument, at least get the year right. ND beat Michigan at Ann Arbor in 2005, not 2004. Weiss wasn't even there in 2004.

My bad, I see it's the preseason 2005 ranking, and I was the one that was retarded. But they did finish like 7-5 that year, and were nothing special. I hate Notre Dame, but I like Charlie. Maybe I'll grow to hate them less.

Rev_Al · Dec 1, 2006

considering many of the 'experts' predicted a tough first year for Weis...having many quality wins (not necessarily huge wins), and not starting the season 0-6, as May predicted...not sure why he would be one to criticize ND for not having any marquee wins, when he thought they were dirt to begin w/...as evidenced below:

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Arodd · Dec 1, 2006

amen. have that saved on my youtube from a while ago. it's fuckin nice.

Joe_Hallenbeck · Dec 1, 2006

Mark May has never made a good point in his life. My theory is that ND turned him down when he was coming out of high school.

I love it when people continue to take cheap shots at his weight when they are calling him out too. It just proves that they have less of an argument than they want to admit.

Oh, and we all know ND beat USC last year, just like OK beat Oregon this year. Just because the recordbook says differently doesn't make it true

tomone · Dec 1, 2006

Fat Charlie is on his way to a number 1 recruiting class, and that is the name of the game,. Pulled in Armando Aleen from Florida today 4.32 40 time, look for 5 commits thisw weekend. OH they beat GT this year as well as 6 other bowl teams, playing with TYrones players. The future is bright in ND.

FairWarning · Dec 1, 2006

Illini said:
My bad, I see it's the preseason 2005 ranking, and I was the one that was retarded. But they did finish like 7-5 that year, and were nothing special. I hate Notre Dame, but I like Charlie. Maybe I'll grow to hate them less.

Michigan has a history of tanking after losing to ND. It is a huge recruiting game for both. Don't forget Hart got hurt in the ND game last year. Illini, I was going to scold you for misreading the poll.

Dsethi - we'll get together next weekend. Thursday works for me too. :drink:

fro11 · Dec 1, 2006

get off the they beat 6 bowl teasms arguments, just because you make a bowl game does not mean you are a good team
nice schedule. the academies topped off with UNC, wow.....
2 good teams they played combined score was MICH AND USC 81- ND 45 i think
i could coach ND passed the academies and UNC