Any full time bettors that follow other bettors plays full time, if so any advice?

Iceman · Dec 4, 2006

Have talked to quite a few guys offline and a few of them told me that this is thier #1 thing to do, it is to ride the coattails of others plays at the Rx and other sites (some pay sites). Any serious bettors use this approach and if so has it worked? I think it obscure sports this could be a +ev way to win.

Next year what I am going to do is start researching and following a few proven winners here or at pay sites and add that to my arsenal. Have tried this in the past and seems like I am always a little late to the party. Any advice from others on this? I think the #1 thing I am going to look at is a guy that uses a computer to CRUNCH numbers and then throws in some angles into his plays, sort of filters out his plays. I want to make sure this guy puts more time and effort into this than I do and have a few ideas of guys I am thinking of following. I want guys that are passionate and most importantly understands the math behind his plays. A solid capper with a fanatical line shopper (something I have grown a custom to) can beat this game with alot of plays(IMO).

Anyone attempt and work this approach successfully in the past for at least 2 years?

TomBrady#1 · Dec 5, 2006

You are doing yourself an unjustice if you do not research, scout and seek out a few quality cappers to follow. There are not too many actually very few real good ones...but a few winners are out there. I follow a couple that I have come to trust.

I do not know anything about those pay sites.

gynecologist · Dec 5, 2006

Seem like when I follow someone they end up losing..

If I were ever to follow anyone blindly it would either be pags cause he is my personal friend and I know he knows his shit, or boxslayer who's writeups are always on point..

99% of the time I go with my own plays.. GL

Doug · Dec 5, 2006

If you do follow getting their line is critical. You can cheat a little, like on a Railbird tennis play, or a Criscol German hockey play, but for major sports you need the line to be right.

If you bet all sports, no way you can be good capping everything.

Iceman · Dec 5, 2006

gynecologist said:
Seem like when I follow someone they end up losing..

If I were ever to follow anyone blindly it would either be pags cause he is my personal friend and I know he knows his shit, or boxslayer who's writeups are always on point..

99% of the time I go with my own plays.. GL

this is always my problem. I think I am the kiss of death. I know nothing is guaranteed but seems like I am to wishy-washy with it. maybe next I will follow Dr. Bob's plays in CFB.

Doug · Dec 5, 2006

How about fading, Ice ?

gynecologist · Dec 5, 2006

I have the same problem.. Everyone is raving about Carolina kid's plays and I have followed them about 5 times and lost every damn time..

I am the kiss of death as well..

gynecologist · Dec 5, 2006

Doug said:
How about fading, Ice ?

I have something that works almost every time guys.. This has made me some serious money the last 6-7 weeks..

I have a list of people on here and on other forums who I consider either sharp or square..

It's hilarious how often the square group will all like the same play. When that happens I fade and hammer it.. Now it's a little harder with the sharp group cause alot of their plays differ a lot, But the square group at least two or three times a week will all like the same play..

It has been gold.. :103631605

syddiggers · Dec 5, 2006

gynecologist said:
I have the same problem.. Everyone is raving about Carolina kid's plays and I have followed them about 5 times and lost every damn time..

I am the kiss of death as well..

I was born with that gift as well. My older relatives have asked me not to kiss them hello or goodbye any more.

I have no problems with reading some of the posts and analysis from the sharper guys here but I will never follow anyone blindly because at the end of the day I like to be responsible for my own decisions, and the winning or losing of money. I will allow sharper players opinions to affect my wagers i.e bet more if a sharp is on my side, or reduce or cancel a play if theyre against me ( depending how strongly ), but I will never initiate a play purely off someone else because at the end of the day it is my money, and I wish to be fully responsible, or irresponsible for it.

GreenDoberman · Dec 5, 2006

Most of the professionals are not bettors but rather middlers, scalpers, advantage players, etc. Those are far more lucrative and risk-free than trying to grind out picking winners.
I can count very few who consistently make a living just picking sides.
A better bet would be to fade the public, who as sad as it is are often wrong far more than they are right.

Iceman · Dec 5, 2006

GreenDoberman said:
Most of the professionals are not bettors but rather middlers, scalpers, advantage players, etc. Those are far more lucrative and risk-free than trying to grind out picking winners.
I can count very few who consistently make a living just picking sides.
A better bet would be to fade the public, who as sad as it is are often wrong far more than they are right.

Post of the day :suomi:

gbogo · Dec 5, 2006

green doberman

thats a very good point

i can beat any sport with winners > losers but why bother so much
my way is alot more boring too most people betting <1 game a day> but if I increase games the chances of winning decrease because im extending any losing pattern and im not weighting the games plus extra juice

your point is so valid - take the easier approach and look for the lower risk angle of betting for the long run. so it would be advantegeous to cap early bet early and hedge out line movements. as well as cover with 2nd halfs.

tks alot made me think more about it.

Moon88 · Dec 5, 2006

GreenDoberman said:
Most of the professionals are not bettors but rather middlers, scalpers, advantage players, etc. Those are far more lucrative and risk-free than trying to grind out picking winners.
I can count very few who consistently make a living just picking sides.
A better bet would be to fade the public, who as sad as it is are often wrong far more than they are right.

I love to take advantage....Is that a good thing:think2:

As for Carolina Kid many of his plays are GJ steam and posts that he gets it from a sharp in Vegas, but these plays are never posted prior to the steam being released which makes me think he is full of it. Those lines will catch up to the followers. November steam is strong...

Moon88 · Dec 5, 2006

Ice as for following anyone full time I believe it is a mistake. I prefer to do my own work and compare with others. I feel my numbers are very strong and they haven't let me down YET. What a mean is you/me have to become good at this rather then following someone. What happens when they are gone?

TomBrady#1 · Dec 5, 2006

gbogo said:
green doberman

thats a very good point

i can beat any sport with winners > losers but why bother so much
my way is alot more boring too most people betting <1 game a day> but if I increase games the chances of winning decrease because im extending any losing pattern and im not weighting the games plus extra juice

your point is so valid - take the easier approach and look for the lower risk angle of betting for the long run. so it would be advantegeous to cap early bet early and hedge out line movements. as well as cover with 2nd halfs.

tks alot made me think more about it.

Sorry this post does not make a lot of sense. You can beat any sport but don't because it is boring? Money is boring? LOL. IF you increase the number of plays the chances on winning decrease? 100% false. If you can beat any sport (most likely very untrue) then if you increase your plays you are decreasng your risk and it is more advantageous. This post is absurd. Sorry. There is more but enough is enough.

WVU · Dec 5, 2006

I follow ace ace full time, but only when he is winning
:finger:

gbogo · Dec 5, 2006

tom brady

honestly if i bet 100 games and end up 50-50 - i lose

if i bet 40 games and go 30-10

which would you rather do?

now if i listen to doberman i can bet more games by using my picks and playing them off against themselves and thereby not taking the increased number of losers into my profit and loss-- and adding extra profits.

if you are so fkg stupid you cant understand i cant help that

Fishhead · Dec 5, 2006

GBOGO and BRADY----relax, respect each other.

In reality, you are BOTH correct..................but sometimes in a forum setting like this it is hard to explain your points in one......or even a few posts.

gbogo · Dec 5, 2006

fish - im not saying another word after this post

some people spend there whole lives trying to figure out an angle.

if you cant understand that betting more games kills you in the end well you have something to learn.

a hedge or reduction of risk by betting a larger no. of games would involve correlation between results-- lol you wont find that in sports.

kangaroo21 · Dec 5, 2006

I've been following this site for 3 years:
his 4 in row, but I'm not sure that people from USA can bet on such soccer matches ...

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