what is the best casino game...baccarat ?

kimchee7270 · Dec 8, 2006

A pit boss once told me Baccarat as the Smallest Vig on all the Casino table Games And it affords you the Best Chance of winning ??? now is this true 'cause I've played it and I've seen a GReat deal of people Getting The Sh^t kicked ot of em includin myself ........MONKEY !!!!! what do u guys think ???

Doug · Dec 8, 2006

It's one of the lowest for sure.

syddiggers · Dec 8, 2006

I have heard that of all the casino games Baccarat gives the player the most edge.

GreenDoberman · Dec 8, 2006

Bacc has a low vig, but the high number of decisions per hour will break you down quickly.
Pass/don't pass w/odds on craps will grind out your losses much slower.

Of course, this is considering you are going with coin-flip non-skilled decisions vs. card counting, bank machines, +ev vp.

Woody0 · Dec 8, 2006

Baccarat has just over 1% casino edge provided you don't play the tie.

Most blackjack is less than 1% (don't play the 6-5 blackjack games) provided you know and play basic strategy.

Craps is 1.44% for the pass/come bet and is reduced below 1% by taking full odds, that are paid at true value.

These 3 games have a far lower casino edge than any other.

LLXC13 · Dec 8, 2006

Play the bank/dealer.

kimchee7270 · Dec 8, 2006

thanx

MONKEY..............AAaaaaaaayshhhhhh

Fishhead · Dec 8, 2006

TIP--A few casinos charge less than the normal 5% commission for winning BANKER wagers and only charge 4%...........and even lower in some instances if they are doing some type of promo.

Look for this edge.

heatohio · Dec 8, 2006

Fishhead said:
TIP--A few casinos charge less than the normal 5% commission for winning BANKER wagers and only charge 4%...........and even lower in some instances if they are doing some type of promo.

Look for this edge.

I've never seen this before. Do know which casinos offer this?

heatohio · Dec 8, 2006

I love craps. That is the game that makes me my money when I go to casinos. I used to drive up to Detroit (about 2 and a half hours away from me) every weekend to make some extra money playing craps. I play a little bit of Baccarat as well but I think the best game in the casino is by far craps.

MrJ · Dec 8, 2006

Bacc for most, BJ for those that know what they're doing. Lowest limit single 0 roulette isn't a bad alternative since the game is slower and you can make smaller bets.

Fishhead · Dec 8, 2006

heatohio said:
I've never seen this before. Do know which casinos offer this?

The HORSESHOE in downtown Vegas had and think they still do..............4% mini-baccart.

A few casinos across the country had 1-4% commission promos.......which made for a GREAT play.

X-Files · Dec 8, 2006

Woody0 said:
Baccarat has just over 1% casino edge provided you don't play the tie.

Most blackjack is less than 1% (don't play the 6-5 blackjack games) provided you know and play basic strategy.

Craps is 1.44% for the pass/come bet and is reduced below 1% by taking full odds, that are paid at true value.

These 3 games have a far lower casino edge than any other.

What % is roulette playing black/red, odd/even, etc?

AdamSelene · Dec 8, 2006

X-Files said:
What % is roulette playing black/red, odd/even, etc?

Shouldn't gamble without elementary knowledge of statistics & probability.

Regular double-zero roulette has 38 spots, and each of the those bets (black/red, odd/even) will cover 18 of those spots.

18/38 (probability) x 2 (2-1 payout) = 94.73% expected payback

100 - 94.73 = 5.26% expected house edge

Single-zero roulette has 37 spots, so:

18/37 (probability) x 2 (2-1 payout) = 97.30% expected payback

100 - 97.30 = 2.70% expected house edge

Want to let it ride on a color?

Odds of winning back-to-back (double-zero roulette):
[ 1/(18/38)^N]

1 win = 1 in 2.11 / pays 2-1
2 wins = 1 in 4.46 / pays 4-1
3 wins = 1 in 9.41 / pays 8-1
4 wins = 1 in 19.86 / pays 16-1
5 wins = 1 in 41.93 / pays 32-1
6 wins = 1 in 88.53 / pays 64-1
7 wins = 1 in 186.89 / pays 128-1
8 wins = 1 in 394.5 / pays 256-1

(single-zero)

1 win = 1 in 2.06 / pays 2-1
2 wins = 1 in 4.23 / pays 4-1
3 wins = 1 in 8.68 / pays 8-1
4 wins = 1 in 17.85 / pays 16-1
5 wins = 1 in 36.70 / pays 32-1
6 wins = 1 in 75.44 / pays 64-1
7 wins = 1 in 155.06 / pays 128-1
8 wins = 1 in 318.74 / pays 256-1

AdamSelene · Dec 8, 2006

GreenDoberman said:
Bacc has a low vig, but the high number of decisions per hour will break you down quickly.

Mini-baccarat has no player decisions.

5Dimes offers online mini-baccarat with 4% banker commission.

http://www.5dimes.com/chartbaccarat.html

Woody0 · Dec 8, 2006

Adam Selene said:
Mini-baccarat has no player decisions.

GD meant decisions as in number of hands.

AdamSelene · Dec 8, 2006

Woody0 said:
GD meant decisions as in number of hands.

Ah! I was confused for a minute. You talk about number of decisions per hour/minute multi-tabling Hold'em and you are talking about raise/call/fold decisions. At least that's how I understood it.

If you want a slow game to waste time, play Pai Gow.

kimchee7270 · Dec 9, 2006

system to win in baccarat?

Anyone Come up with a Formula to win in baccarat ? example .....3 players then bet on bank ......limit yourself to equal unit bets don't chase......the same discipline in sports betting but less juice

AdamSelene · Dec 9, 2006

There is no system to beat Baccarat. You can read about card counting in Baccarat here:

http://wizardofodds.com/baccarat/baccaratapx2.html

"I hope this section shows that for all practical purposes baccarat is not a countable game."

UT-Longhorn · Dec 9, 2006

kimchee7270 said:
Anyone Come up with a Formula to win in baccarat ? example .....3 players then bet on bank ......limit yourself to equal unit bets don't chase......the same discipline in sports betting but less juice

yes, and it has made me a small fortune.

watch for 8 in a row, either way, then on the 9th one dealt, start going big against it the other way, chase on your losses. Longest ive seen in a row was 12. could take 5 mins or 9 hours like one night i stood there before 8 in a row hit.