The BEARS -2.5 are my top play of the week.........whether GB needs the game or not.
If the GIANTS win on Saturday night, the Packers are eliminated.
If the GIANTS lose on Saturday, a PACKER win will get them in the playoffs IF ONE of the following three occur on Sunday afternoon...........
1. RAMS LOSE
2. PANTHERS WIN
3. FALCONS WIN
Again, only ONE of the three has to occur for the Packers to control their own destiny.............IF THE GIANTS lose.
However, as stated, like the BEARS -2.5 either way.
If the GIANTS win on Saturday night, the Packers are eliminated.
If the GIANTS lose on Saturday, a PACKER win will get them in the playoffs IF ONE of the following three occur on Sunday afternoon...........
1. RAMS LOSE
2. PANTHERS WIN
3. FALCONS WIN
Again, only ONE of the three has to occur for the Packers to control their own destiny.............IF THE GIANTS lose.
However, as stated, like the BEARS -2.5 either way.
Journeyman said:
An oddsmaker your not....
Just in their game alone they are an UNDERDOG...........not even taking into consideration one of the three scenarios on SUNDAY has to take place.
Do believe the PACKERS/BEARS line will come down if the GIANTS lose, as players will jump on the Packers bandwagon........but even so, doubt it would swing to the point of where the Packers would actually be the favorite in the game............PK possibly, but not a favorite.
I hate to be on the other side of you 2 guys and feel as strongly as I do about it as I have GB as my top play. Living in Chicago, one thing I am priviliged to is reading the local papers, listening to the talk radio shows, and seeing local news. One thing to not underestimate this week is fact FB Mckie will not play. Does not seem big but Mckie is one of the top 3 blocking fb's football and is very underappreciated. Packers have actually been very good defensively of late (better than the Bears) and feel this is a huge loss in blocking for running game as well as picking up blitzes. If Benson gets the majority of the snaps this game which I believe he will, Grossman and Griese will have issues having enough time to throw as the biggest knock and reason Benson has not played except in obvious plays he was going to get the ball is his inability to pick up the blitzes. GB has the DE's already in Kampman and KGB to put pressure on but when you have outstanding fast lb's like Hodge, Hawk, and Barnett, they will be able to put some severe pressure on the quarterback in blitzing situations and have the db's to play the man to man in Woodson and Harris to make the big plays though Woodson may not play. Chicago's has played progressively worse since STL vs TB and Detroit and the fact that many of you don't realize is how banged up they are and can't risk injury here. They are down to 3rd and 4th safeties, 3rd and 4th interior lineman, and backup fb. Believe me when I say they have absolutely nothing to play for besides pride in beating GB again. Lovie made this a priority when he got to Chicago and has done a nice job winning 3 straight but believe me when I say starters will go no longer than a half regardless of score and no one of importance will be in their in 4th. This game will be played like a preseason game on their side plain and simple. Game change will not affect game. Question that needs to be asked is assuming GB already eliminated from playoffs, who has more motivation to play? The answer is still GB. They have lost 3 in a row in series and would like to break it, and have chance to have .500 season. Packers have no need to rest starters and will play all out. Don't forget boys Favre has only lost one time ever in Chicago as the starting qb for GB and that was ly. Anyway best of luck with whatever you decide to do. Quick note also. People have mentioned how Bears have not lost in NFC this year. Seattle had not lost in NFC ly going to GB and lost so not an angle I am buying. BOL
I was going to post something similar to kojaks post but not as elaborate as his post would have taken me all night to type but he is correct, the local media are up in Arms and the Books know The Bears are in trouble. It will be in their First game that you will see the Books really take them on. :drink:
I'm with ya Kojak................Bears have it locked up, and Grossman just isn't very impressive. He owes the bears success to the defense this year, and I haven't seen him step up in any primetime games (not even the arizona game). But, if Favre has a glimmer of hope of making the playoffs, he will shine on primetime.
rugby said:
I'm not sure Green bay can dominate or really 'shine' on anyone at this point.......they have awful skill players on offense aside from Favre.
Brian Griese at QB for Chicago should be enough to keep the game close shouldn't it?
Either way i won't be in this game...there's just too much to gamble on, who's playing , who's motivated....
Unless of course the Giants win then what? Does Favre play? Would GB sit him in what could be his last game (even though we know it isn't)?
If the PACKERS are in a position to NEED the win to get into the playoffs, I will be doubling up my wager on the BEARS.
The PACKERS have a much better chance of winning if THEY DON'T NEED THE GAME in my opinion.
This will be a ONE unit play on the BEARS for me if the Packers don't need the game and a TWO unit play on the BEARS if the Packers NEED THE GAME to gain themselves a playoff berth.
By the way, the PACKERS special teams are horrible and that very well may be the difference in this game................there is no question the PACKERS defense is very good, not disputing that.
Very tough game for me being a loyal Packer fan.........but have to bet with my head and not my heart.
The PACKERS have a much better chance of winning if THEY DON'T NEED THE GAME in my opinion.
This will be a ONE unit play on the BEARS for me if the Packers don't need the game and a TWO unit play on the BEARS if the Packers NEED THE GAME to gain themselves a playoff berth.
By the way, the PACKERS special teams are horrible and that very well may be the difference in this game................there is no question the PACKERS defense is very good, not disputing that.
Very tough game for me being a loyal Packer fan.........but have to bet with my head and not my heart.
