Another Dumb victim of Online CrackJack

druidwarrior · Jan 2, 2007

Yeah , I have heard so many people crying a river over how rigg online crackjack is. But when you're bored and there is no action for sports or camel to hump on. You would want to make a small deposit to kill some time.

Here is what happened...

Made a $50 deposit.. 100% bonus I got $100. Take a look at hand FOUR, SIX and SEVEN. Dealer got 3 BJs in 4 Hands :realtongu

Btw this is the famous www.888.com aka casino on net..

bakinbaconwithMacon · Jan 2, 2007

No offence but you really don't know how to play blackjack and this casino is definitely not rigged, scummy at times yes but they have a fair blackjack game. Let's go over your mistakes.

1, standing 16 vs dealer 7, should hit
2, hitting 13 vs dealer 3, should stand
8, standing soft 17 vs dealer 5, should hit
9, hitting 33 vs dealer 4, you should split

That's 4 mistakes in 9 hands. By the time you are done your wagering you should expect to have $0 as your balance. You probably are making the house edge effectly 1% larger. Here is a basic strategy chart:

http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack

druidwarrior said:
Yeah , I have heard so many people crying a river over how rigg online crackjack is. But when you're bored and there is no action for sports or camel to hump on. You would want to make a small deposit to kill some time.

Here is what happened...

Made a $50 deposit.. 100% bonus I got $100. Take a look at hand FOUR, SIX and SEVEN. Dealer got 3 BJs in 4 Hands :realtongu

Btw this is the famous www.888.com aka casino on net..

kidslick · Jan 2, 2007

I haved played at skybook casino 22 days in a row

won 21 out of the 22 days

nothing big:drink:

druidwarrior · Jan 2, 2007

>>> bakinbaconwithMacon

1, standing 16 vs dealer 7, should hit
**Btw.. Hand 1 = 5 + 3 + 9 = 17 ..not 16..
perharps you should get your sum right first

hno:

2, hitting 13 vs dealer 3, should stand.

** Why should I stand at 13 when the dealer have 3?? There is no reason to do so. I You should stand when dealer reveal a 5 or 6. Revealing a 3 is out of the question.. if you're afraid of hitting when you have 13.. you shouldnt even discuss about BJ pls.

8, standing soft 17 vs dealer 5, should hit

** Why shouldnt I stand at soft 17 when dealer is showing a 5.
what is the chances of getting smaller cards like ace, 2, 3 and 4 ?
you couldnt even count 3 simple cards on hand 1. Now you're missing out the odds here yet again.

9, hitting 33 vs dealer 4, you should split

*** I assume you're saying dealer have 3 here.
This hand is neutral hitting or splitting are equally good.

Another important point is: When you play it right, doesnt mean you will win... Dealer could hit up to 6 cards and end up winning.
Also, I dont see you mentioning anything about 3 BJs in 4 hands? makes me wonder if you're part of the 888 syndicate.:lol:

I'm definitely open to crits and I welcome it.. but your call arent even wise here. Give some thoughts to what I have said and you could be a better BJ player bakinbaconwithMacon ..:toast:

Santo · Jan 2, 2007

You should stand 13 vs 3, hit s17 v 5 and split 33 v 4.

Don't criticise people's advice when you don't know Basic Strategy.

<img src="http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/images/bj_4d_h17.gif">

bulldog77 · Jan 2, 2007

Double down S17 vs. 5 is Basic Strategy.

casinosncappers · Jan 2, 2007

This thread is complete nonsense. Have you never lost 5 of 6 hands in a land casino? And your playing strategy is so far off optimum I recommend you never play BJ again.

Cheers

winbet · Jan 2, 2007

I've got the best basic strategy STEER CLEAR OF THIS SHIT.

Dopes playing a programmed online Blackjack Game owned by a Casino talking about basic strategy, they should use it as a sketch for Red nose Day.:missingte

Santo · Jan 2, 2007

I have played hundreds of thousands if not millions of hands of online blackjack, and my results were very close to the expected house advantage (i.e. +EV after bonuses).

Admittedly that was a few years ago, but I have no reason to think it's changed.

Santo · Jan 2, 2007

bulldog77 said:
Double down S17 vs. 5 is Basic Strategy.

If Allowed. It's not always.

Woody0 · Jan 2, 2007

Santo said:
If Allowed. It's not always.

Soft 17 in more than 2 cards is not usually allowed for doubling, but should always be hit against everything, except a 7.

BTW this casino was so good to me I was barred.

TTinCO · Jan 2, 2007

casinosncappers said:
This thread is complete nonsense. Have you never lost 5 of 6 hands in a land casino? And your playing strategy is so far off optimum I recommend you never play BJ again.

Cheers

uppy: Sorry-I have to agree

festeringZit · Jan 2, 2007

Yawn...

Trying to take any meaning from such a small sample size
is absolutly idiotic.

gtc08 · Jan 2, 2007

i still have my original opinion about the software judging how quickly you rebet to determine how successful you win. i would only play blackjack at a casino for fun i think, like a real casino not online.

ivyconniver · Jan 2, 2007

druidwarrior said:
standing soft 17 vs dealer 5, should hit

** Why shouldnt I stand at soft 17 when dealer is showing a 5.
what is the chances of getting smaller cards like ace, 2, 3 and 4 ?
you couldnt even count 3 simple cards on hand 1. Now you're missing out the odds here yet again.

Of course you hit that, what does a 17 get you in this situation that a 16, 15, 14, 13, or 12 wouldn't? Other than 1 chance at a push, you have absolutely NOTHING to lose by hitting that and trying for a winning hand.

hitting 33 vs dealer 4, you should split

*** I assume you're saying dealer have 3 here.
This hand is neutral hitting or splitting are equally good.

No, he means your first hand, when you had two 3's, against the dealer's 4. That's a dealer bust hand, and you should split those to most likely double your profit and avoid a likely 16.[/quote]

Another important point is: When you play it right, doesnt mean you will win...

Yea, great, so just play totally random with no regard to the percentages and hope the casino decides to comp you a buffet meal when you slink away from the table with no chips.

Sorry dude, but there's no conspiracy theory necessary to explain why you ended up with no cash in 9 hands.

FatTony · Jan 2, 2007

I love the fact that he'll hit a 13 against a 13 but is afraid to hit a soft 17 which is really 7.

:lolBIG:

ClipJoint · Jan 2, 2007

Both are shitty....the player and the rigged game. :lol:

I know I wouldn't be happy if the computer/dealer had 7 Aces in the last 7 hands. :lol:

Valuebets · Jan 2, 2007

Online blackjack is definitely positive ev if you include the site's bonuses but if you're playing without bonuses and using some form of progressive betting, it will eventually lead you broke. It took me a long time to understand this and I'm still trying to get grind my way back from some huge losses on paradise/party poker blackjacks :smoking: .

bakinbaconwithMacon · Jan 2, 2007

ok, added that up wrong so not a mistake, regardless 3 errors out of 9 hands = profit for the casino. I just gave you a basic strategy chart, very simple to follow. If you did follow this chart by the time you finished your wagering requirements here you would see a profit on average and this is a positive Expected Value play. Your point that this casino is rigged is flawed for 2 reasons: mistakes in your own play increasing the house edge from about 0.54% to about 1.5% possibly more and your sample size listed was only 9 hands. I am not going to do any standard deviation and probability calculations to determine the chances you are receiving a fair game but 9 hands is not going to tell you anything at all.

You might get pissed off at me for saying that you are wrong and making poor decisions but I know I am right and I am just offering some advice if you do want to play blackjack and minimize your losses. I see these type of posts at www.winneronline.com all the time and all those people get bashed. Surprized to see it here. Your first post wasn't good, your next post basically saying I am dumb for deviating from a basic strategy chart isn't helping either. Follow the chart and you will have about a 0.5% house edge which is small and almost like flipping a coin. As you start to deviate from this chart your effective house edge for your mistakes could approach as high as 3%. You have $5,000 in wagering to do here and with proper strategy you will lose an average of $25. $100 bonus - $25 losses from wagering = $75 profit. I predict by the time you finish your wagering you will end up with $0 so please tell us if you finished the wagering before busting out and if you have any balance in your casino account.

Bacon

druidwarrior said:
>>> bakinbaconwithMacon

1, standing 16 vs dealer 7, should hit
**Btw.. Hand 1 = 5 + 3 + 9 = 17 ..not 16..
perharps you should get your sum right first hno: