Anyone who thinks marty and his coahing stafff should not be fired simply does not understand football. Go ahead and find the last time an nfl team went for it on 4th and 11 in the first quarter from the 30 with an excellent kicker. You won't, no one goes for it on 4th and 11 in the first quarter when you are in field goal range. Only rushing 4 and dropping 7 into coverage in the last 2 minutes of the first half, when you have stopped them all day with pressure, especially when everyone knows how awful the chargers are in prevent situations. You can't take a young aggressive defense like the chargers and tell them to kill for 28 minutes and then say ok drop back and let brady pick you apart. Wasting a timeout on the challenge. The decision to call back to back passing plays on second and four with 4 minutes left when you have the best football player alive in the backfield. They should have ran and ran on the last drive, even if they don't get in fieldgoal range the pats only had one timeout and wouldn't have gotten the ball back.and last but not least, they could have easily picked up 5 more yards with 8 seconds left on a sideline play, but opted to make keading kick form 54 when he could have easily been inside 50. As bad as the chargers played, if it was not for these five awful coaching decision they still would have won. So anyone who thinks marty will be back, does not live in san diego. He won't be back, he should not be back, marty should not be the coach of a superbowl contending team, he needs to go coach somewhere where people are just happy with a winning season. This city has had it with Marty and his coaching staff. They have had the most talented team in football for two years and no playoff win to show.
Journey
you either punt or kick, it was not windy enough to say he cant kick it 48 yards, 10 mph wind, you have no probelm giving him a 54 yarder but not 48. plus, people need to stop blaming Mcree for the INT fumble, everyone says knock it down, BS, you are never taught to knock the ball down with 6 minutes left and at the 35 yard line. you knock it down if it's the last play of the game or half, that was just a great play by brown.
you either punt or kick, it was not windy enough to say he cant kick it 48 yards, 10 mph wind, you have no probelm giving him a 54 yarder but not 48. plus, people need to stop blaming Mcree for the INT fumble, everyone says knock it down, BS, you are never taught to knock the ball down with 6 minutes left and at the 35 yard line. you knock it down if it's the last play of the game or half, that was just a great play by brown.
poopah said:
Your post couldn't be more wrong or ignorant. I live in San Diego. Speak for yourself. Everyone I have talked to has enough football sense to know Marty didn't lose that game yesterday and that there is nobody they will hire (unless they can get Cowher) who would do better.
As for having an excellent kicker: Nate Kaeding might be going to the Pro-Bowl but he is Oh-For in the playoffs. You were probably in front of your TV yesterday and not at the game. There was a huge wind there yesterday and Kaeding would not have made a 47-48 yarder into the wind, the same wind behind him for the 54 yarder. With that wind, the 54 yarder was the equivalent of a 45 yarder in a dome. It wasn't wet, the field was in great shape. If Kaeding is a Pro-Bowl icker he needs to make that kick. Trying another pass to get 5 yards would only have been necessary if not in Kaeding's range. I watched Kaeding warm-up and he was hitting 60 yarders in that direction. Had Marty opted to run another play and someone got tackled inboumds, that would've been a fireable offense. Rivers showed earlier in the game he doesn't understand the concept of getting rid of the ball and not taking a sack when you are in FG range. NE's rookie kicker made a 50 yarder with the wind by 10 yards. Kaeding choked as he did 2 years ago against the Jets.
As for the rest of your points, Marty's team forced Brady into the worst game in his playoff career. Had McCree simply knocked the ball down or held onto it, everyone would be singing Marty's praises for outcoaching Belichick. The Chargers weren't fooled by anything NE did and they certainly weren't outcoached. It's no small coinicdence that Drew Brees is still playing in the playoffs on a team FAR WORSE than the Chargers. THat is what cost the Chargers their year - letting Brees go over AJ's big ego. That set the team back 3 years and firing Marty would set it back 3 more.
Get a clue!
Hey cheater, If you have no intrest in a thread then why the hell do you take time out of your precious schedule to post in it, no one put a gun to your head and told you to read the thread,and Whoreman, Do you undersatnd that with 2nd and four and 4 minutes left they passed it twice, with LT in the backfield, who was not being stopped, do you understand what taking time off the clock is about when there is only 4 minutes left, do you get that the moron said the chargers ran out of time, when he blew a timeout for them, you don't. You don't think LT would have picked up 4 yards in two attempts, are u stupid or do you simply not understand that when you have the best player in football, who had not been stopped all game, in a position to run clock and move the chains, you use him and say if they stop it then they earned it. Am I saying marty is the only reason the chargers lost , no. since you are a charger fan, when is the last time this team went in to prevent mode and stopped anyone, they suck at prevent defense, yet marty decided to put them in that position. we will not win a superbowl with marty, so why should he stay.
poopah said:
Ownership and the media put Marty in a no-win situation here. He was told no more "Martyball" and to open things up. Yet he was given a QB not capable of doing so (against his wishes). He was also told to let his coordinators call plays which is what he did. Of course he should've been running the ball at the end of the game. But do you not think Brees would've hit a 2nd and 5 or 3rd and 5 pass? If Marty runs LT 40 times yesterday as he should've and the Chargers had lost, he would've FOR SURE been fired for being "typical, conservative Marty". Martyball would've won a Superbowl for the Chargers and internal pressures didn't allow Marty to do what was best for this team. Marty coached well enough to win. His players didn't make plays. Rivers didn't, Jackson didn't, Kaeding didn't, Parker didn't, McCardell didn't, Merriman didn't, and on and on...... We may not win a Superbowl with Marty, but I don't think Belichick is coming here, so if there is not a better option you can't fire him for change's sake. Cowher lost a lot of big home games before winning the big one. Marty is a great coach. If you think Pete Carroll could take this team to the Superbowl you are insane and reading too many posters here and listening to too much talk radio.
If the Chargers fire Marty they will soon become a 500 team. Players play for certain coaches and Marty has this team playing great.
Teams lose and teams win. It was not his fault the Chargers decided to let their starting QB leave. When was the last time an N.F.L. team got good and let their QB go? When? It doesn't happen, but it happened with Marty this year. Is that his fault to let what might be 1 of the best QB's in the game walk away from a team that got great with him?
The Chargers fire Marty and you will see the team start to get worse and worse. No way do you replace him and expect to keep winning in the A.F.C. west. Marty is the Chargers only chance to stay on top!
I am not a Chargers fan and if the Chargers do fire Marty I would take him in a minute to coach my team. And soon we would be better than the Chargers. It would take 2 years for Martys new team to be better than what will happen to the Chargers if they let him go!
I know losing sucks, but just wait because next year as next year could be the Chargers year. But only if they keep Marty!
Martys a great coach and does make mistakes, but they all do (except Belichick). But what Marty can do is get your team in the playoffs almost every year and he can make your team 1 of the best always.
I bet He could go to Arizona and get them into the playoffs!
Teams lose and teams win. It was not his fault the Chargers decided to let their starting QB leave. When was the last time an N.F.L. team got good and let their QB go? When? It doesn't happen, but it happened with Marty this year. Is that his fault to let what might be 1 of the best QB's in the game walk away from a team that got great with him?
The Chargers fire Marty and you will see the team start to get worse and worse. No way do you replace him and expect to keep winning in the A.F.C. west. Marty is the Chargers only chance to stay on top!
I am not a Chargers fan and if the Chargers do fire Marty I would take him in a minute to coach my team. And soon we would be better than the Chargers. It would take 2 years for Martys new team to be better than what will happen to the Chargers if they let him go!
I know losing sucks, but just wait because next year as next year could be the Chargers year. But only if they keep Marty!
Martys a great coach and does make mistakes, but they all do (except Belichick). But what Marty can do is get your team in the playoffs almost every year and he can make your team 1 of the best always.
I bet He could go to Arizona and get them into the playoffs!
Dr. Know it all said:
The NFL is about winning superbowls. If there was an award for getting to the playoffs Marty would have the biggest trophy case. BTW, he's had 3 #1 seeds all lose in the first round, and hasn't won a playoff game in 14 years, only taking two years off in that span. One and out 5 times dating back to 1994...that is abysmal.
Don't forget last year either. San Diego did not make the playoffs because they lost at least five games in the 4th Quarter.
I support giving him another year, if only because there is not anyone readily available to take over and both coordinators are just that, coordinators.
Winning regular season games is highly overrated.
whormoan said:
And he made it with 5 - 10 yards to spare. Kaeding kicked in the same direction and his ball didn't even make it to the goalpost.
BTW....10-12 yards is a slight exageration.
More fun facts from Whormoan...these two side openings around the scoreboard reduce fieldgoal kicking distances by 10 to 12 yards.
Could it be that Marty takes average teams and makes them play the best they can, but when his teams get to the playoffs they become what they are = average.
I mean the Chargers were starting a rookie QB and most teams would have fell apart after losing their starting QB. Martys team didn't even look like it mattered. And we know that Drew Brees was ans is a great QB, but Marty started the rookie and still had the best record in the N.F.L.
But reality came back to the Chargers and when the playoffs started were the Chargers really the favorite? With a rookie QB? How can you fault Marty?
The players really like Marty and if the Chargers let him go they will piss off alot of players. The team will then fall apart because Martys the 1 who keep them together after losing a great QB>
I mean the Chargers were starting a rookie QB and most teams would have fell apart after losing their starting QB. Martys team didn't even look like it mattered. And we know that Drew Brees was ans is a great QB, but Marty started the rookie and still had the best record in the N.F.L.
But reality came back to the Chargers and when the playoffs started were the Chargers really the favorite? With a rookie QB? How can you fault Marty?
The players really like Marty and if the Chargers let him go they will piss off alot of players. The team will then fall apart because Martys the 1 who keep them together after losing a great QB>
