Well at least they are making a small dent in the war on gambling

sean1 · Jan 16, 2007

Cause they sure as hell arent winning the war on terrorism or the war on drugs.

But this little battle on gambling will go away. Just like the battles on drugs. I remember in the late 80s or early 90s when they invaded some central america country and started dropping poison on columbia. I remember how cocaine was going to dissapear. Funny how I see it in about every other bar I go to.

Every goes in cycles. The gov will screw up this industry for a year or two, realize it is a lost cause and all will go back to how it was.

You can not eliminate anything that people want.

I wonder who will replace neteller.

-Sean

roach23 · Jan 16, 2007

The govt should put this kind of effort into finding Osama.

wilheim · Jan 16, 2007

The govt should put this kind of effort into finding Osama.

How about stuff like making sure our schools are safe, getting the immigration problem straightened out, secure our borders, energy independence, homelessness, poverty, affordable medical care and drugs for everyone, not to mention the big stuff like the war on terror and the now lost war on illegal drugs.

Ad Nauseam.

wil..

sean1 · Jan 16, 2007

Wil,

None of those things can put money in the gov's pocket.

Why do they bust drug dealers, poker games, bookies, and escorts? Cause when they do, they get CASH

Sean

Anti-liberal · Jan 16, 2007

I guess the government shouldn't be enforcing speed limits any more, or handing out parking ticket or preventing people from jaywalking. According to your logic, only some of the laws should be enforced, according to some unspecified list of priorities.

These reason why law enforcement has to continue to enforce laws of even the smallest infraction is because people, when left to themselves, will not take it upon themselves to follw the law, unless it serves them individually.

I'm getting tired of the "they should be pursuing other crimes" arguement...sorry.

docmercer · Jan 16, 2007

Anti-liberal said:
I'm getting tired of the "they should be pursuing other crimes" arguement...sorry.

Anything to defend the whores that campaigned on personal freedoms and now want to babysit every dollar in your bank.

It's not a matter of taking traffic cops and making them do other jobs - it's called equal resource allocation. We have a finite number of treasury department workers, FBI agents etc. For every homeland security person filling out paperwork on a shipment of glass bongs, it's one less agent running a mirror under that van crossing in from Windsor.

We have 12x as many people working in the government that monitor how much money people send to individuals in Cuba vs. how much is sent to Islamic charities -- how's that for "specified" priorities?

Defend these assholes all you want. The fact that you chose such a political name to participate in a sportsbetting forum speaks to why you even joined TheRX community to begin with.

Anti-liberal · Jan 16, 2007

ktvvegas said:
The fact that you chose such a political name to participate in a sportsbetting forum speaks to why you even joined TheRX community to begin with.

I used to primarily comment in the Politics forum, but I don't go over there much anymore, due to overwhelming negativity and the fact that it's an overall waste of time. The fact that you have a problem with my moniker shows that you're a flaming liberal. You're the second leftwinger to lament about it. Maybe I should go by "anti-ktvvegas"...would that give you the hard-on you're groping for?

docmercer · Jan 16, 2007

Anti-liberal said:
I used to primarily comment in the Politics forum, but I don't go over there much anymore, due to overwhelming negativity and the fact that it's an overall waste of time. The fact that you have a problem with my moniker shows that you're a flaming liberal. You're the second leftwinger to lament about it. Maybe I should go by "anti-ktvvegas"...would that give you the hard-on you're groping for?

Lol - you whine that it's too negative over there and you join up with a name like that?

Flaming liberal - blah blah blah. Sticks and stones and jabs from government apologists... Your inability to see past your party membership and chastise those who are eroding our ability to wager online just pushes you even further into the margins.

No comments on any of my other points -- just about your name. There's valid debate in here - and it waved byebye to you months ago.

Anti-liberal · Jan 16, 2007

So you think some gov't resources should be allocated differently. Fine. sounds reasonable. What exactly am I supposed to comment on?

Mr.Smith · Jan 16, 2007

US budget defecit in 2000....20 trillion

US budget defecit today.... 50 trillion

this is beyond insane. Its beyond unsustainable. We are in very serious trouble as a nation.

While the big issues like this dont get spoken of in Washington they are verybusy with things like this silly witch hunt.

regulating on-line gambling will make the USA billions in tax dollars WITHOUT RAISING ANYONES TAXES!!! and create thousands of decent jobs for working Americans. Where is the downside? I must be missing that.

For anyone who thinks criminalizing is the answer, how did Prohabition turn out again? USA is too bankrupt for this idiocy of trying to criminalize legitimate businesses. It has to end. There is no point to it and the government needs the money. On-line gambling owners would love to be legal taxed businesses here. Their revenue would explode and they know it. Uncle Sam gets his cut and thousands of jobs come back from overseas.

Maybe we have a 50 trillion dollar budget defecit because of many asinine indefensibally stupid decisions like trying to criminalize on-line gaming. Especially when 92% of Americans in polls believe it should be legal.

The war on freedom is in full gear now.....

docmercer · Jan 16, 2007

Anti-liberal said:
So you think some gov't resources should be allocated differently. Fine. sounds reasonable. What exactly am I supposed to comment on?

Since the bulk of your comments are retarded - I won't venture as to which threads you should comment in.

My point is that we're taking resources away from REAL crime (ie: crime which creates actual victims) and, for political reasons, allocating resources to shore up political friends and favors. Your unwillingness to even acknowledge this shows that you're in fact part of the problem.

You defend a governement which has done more intrusion into our own personal lives in 6 years than any in the last 40 -- and have the nerve to call me a flaming liberal? I don't think you even know what these terms are - you just throw around names hoping they'll still.

I've written letters to local papers, contacted my representatives and donated money to an organization that was taking out ads and lobbying lawmakers back in the fall before the bill was snuck through.

You've whined about not getting paid in 15 minutes from Pinny - kudos to you. Keep fighting the good fight.

tgbn · Jan 16, 2007

People should drop the liberal / conservative issue , as they should drop the war on drugs and terror issues too .
Start thinking outside the box ; these things will never go away , because the same people that pretend opposing them are the ones who created them .
We're still in the middle ages ;there's the ones in power and they know unless they convince the ones at the bottom to fight between themselves they won't remain in power long .
The press , television , medical field , legal field , banking institutions , etc ... seem to enjoy personnal freedom ;but they don't .
As long as people will not realise we're living like Jim Carrey's character in the truman show the things will never change .
You think we are fighting a war on terror ? Ever heard of the testimony of William Rodriguez ? You think were fighting the war on cancer ? Ever heard about doctor Max Gerson ? You think we're pushing for new green technologies ? Check Stanley Meyer (murdered ) , check Guy Negre (inventor of the air powered car in 1999 )

Anti-liberal · Jan 16, 2007

KTV....You're the one who has to keep up the good fight against our evil government. I'm part of the evil, privacy destroying government machine. The only privacy you deserve is the privacy to what is going on between your ears. And maybe that's enough.

docmercer · Jan 16, 2007

Anti-liberal said:
KTV....You're the one who has to keep up the good fight against our evil government. I'm part of the evil, privacy destroying government machine. .

At least you admit you're part of the problem. Thats the first step I suppose.

Woody0 · Jan 16, 2007

wilheim said:
How about stuff like making sure our schools are safe, getting the immigration problem straightened out, secure our borders, energy independence, homelessness, poverty, affordable medical care and drugs for everyone, ...

Nah that's the basics of government. Don't the States do that and let the Feds wage war on everything?

PS: Something must have got you stirred up wil to make such a political statement.

AdamSelene · Jan 16, 2007

Anti-liberal said:
I guess the government shouldn't be enforcing speed limits any more, or handing out parking ticket or preventing people from jaywalking. According to your logic, only some of the laws should be enforced...

Absolutely some laws should not be enforced, and some ought to be enforced better.

However it is not ambiguous so let me spell it out for you.

Crimes against persons or property ought to be enforced (including endangerment); contracts ought to be enforced.

Everything else ought not be a crime. No victim no crime.

IMHO all cases ought to have a complainant who must prove a wrong was done to them, or someone acting on behalf of the victim if they are unable to.

bigbet1234 · Jan 16, 2007

Great post Wil..... I actually agree:aktion033

wilheim said:
How about stuff like making sure our schools are safe, getting the immigration problem straightened out, secure our borders, energy independence, homelessness, poverty, affordable medical care and drugs for everyone, not to mention the big stuff like the war on terror and the now lost war on illegal drugs.

Ad Nauseam.

wil..

oldirtyku · Jan 16, 2007

Just legalize and tax it... Use the loot to make sure my future kids get a good education and that potholes in my road get fixed...

HarryCaray · Jan 16, 2007

Is the the Offshore forum?

Maybe I took a wrong turn at the corner of "I don't give a fuck" and "Who cares."

Rawpimple · Jan 16, 2007

Its called prioritize. Take care of the most pressing problems. The fact we have paid government employees wasting time, energy, and money on enforcing stupid ass laws like online gambling and whether or not some poor fat slob paid for sex is ridiculous. Its analogous to a physician saying ok let me treat that cold and that metastatic prostate cancer equally. F*^$ the cold.