This game would not even be -7 if it was in my middle of season and at Indy

Iceman · Feb 4, 2007

Classic over hyped favorite we see every year in the Super Bowl. Every football fan latches on to 1 team , usually the 1 with the better offense and the line just looks ridicuolus compared to what it would be in mid season. There is no way that Colts would be a 10 point home favorite( 7 at neutral site is 10 at home) to Bears during this season, that is Houston Texans territory.

With that said I still cannot bet the Bears and the reason is that as a sports fan I have seen this scenairo with superstars in the past and I think it is just that time for Manning. He gets his ring. I am succumbing to what all squares are thinking and I am not betting on Grossman or against Manning in the 4th quarter of this big game.

So because I am bored and am only in a few dumb football squares and I am going to a buddies bar to watch the game I am betting Colts ML and enjoying a high powered offense and for a Detroit Lions fan that is a nice change.

TheShotDoctor · Feb 4, 2007

IceMan...........

Iceman said:
Classic over hyped favorite we see every year in the Super Bowl. Every football fan latches on to 1 team , usually the 1 with the better offense and the line just looks ridicuolus compared to what it would be in mid season. There is no way that Colts would be a 10 point home favorite( 7 at neutral site is 10 at home) to Bears during this season, that is Houston Texans territory.

With that said I still cannot bet the Bears and the reason is that as a sports fan I have seen this scenairo with superstars in the past and I think it is just that time for Manning. He gets his ring. I am succumbing to what all squares are thinking and I am not betting on Grossman or against Manning in the 4th quarter of this big game.

So because I am bored and am only in a few dumb football squares and I am going to a buddies bar to watch the game I am betting Colts ML and enjoying a high powered offense and for a Detroit Lions fan that is a nice change.

My Thoughts Exactly.....INDY -7...The Line Would Not Be That High W/ INDY @ Home (during the regular season) Thus I Really Think "They" Are Begging For BEARS $$$!

Enjoy The Game
MR. NEWLYWED

Iceman · Feb 4, 2007

I am not even saying 7, more like 5.5 at Indy which equates to 2.5/3 at a neutral site.

HuskerFan1 · Feb 4, 2007

i agree...i said to a guy i know if payton was out bc of injury...what would the line be? he said well you probably have to give payton 4pts so indy-3...if this line was indy -3 without payton id bet everything i have on the bears...

7 is a couple too high....thus the reason i like the bears today....

what i wish is the game was in chicago and the bears were a 3pt underdog at home...that would be the best play of all 3scenarios...of being on the road/neutral field or at home....

kermit16 · Feb 4, 2007

Iceman said:
I am not even saying 7, more like 5.5 at Indy which equates to 2.5/3 at a neutral site.

I really respect your opinion but on this one I will agree to disagree.
I bought AFC early in season at -2 and - 3 as it was obvious to anyone that the NFC sucked big time. What has changed ? Bear's defense has been so-so since mid season giving up a lot of points to teams like Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Detroit !

X-Files · Feb 4, 2007

If i recall the Bears were +3 at NE and it became +4.5 close to gametime.
And the Colts were a pick at NE.

Based on that info alone that might make the Bears anywhere from +6 to
+9 at Indy during the regular season, depending on a number of things,
such as how many points you give the HF advantage, in particular the
Indy HF. If i am not mistaken they are in a dome and were 8-0 during
this regular season.

If the Super Bowl were being played in the cold north i suspect the line
would not be so high.

FatTony · Feb 4, 2007

Pats at Colts two weeks ago was 3 1/2 mostly. (So PK on a neutral site.)

Pats were -4 1/2 against the Bears at home week 11.

Shouldn't it be Colts-4 1/2 if this was played at Indy? Who the hell knows??:nopityA:

D2bets · Feb 4, 2007

Ice, you're allowed one square play per year. Get it out of the way early. Don't get it too heavy either, because they're going to CROWN THEIR ASS tonight.

Iceman · Feb 4, 2007

kermit16 said:
I really respect your opinion but on this one I will agree to disagree.
I bought AFC early in season at -2 and - 3 as it was obvious to anyone that the NFC sucked big time. What has changed ? Bear's defense has been so-so since mid season giving up a lot of points to teams like Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Detroit !

I would be willing to bet with every dollar to my name that ther is no way that on a Sunday afternoon during the regular season this game is -10 (same as -7 at neutral site) Indy at Indy. NO WAY!!!!

at home this year here are the spreads on Colts games:
Texans (-11.5) = 8.5 neutral site
Jax (-6.5) = 3.5
Tenn (-17)=14
Wash (-8)=5
Buffalo (-12)= 9
Phi (-10) first game w/out Mcnabb= 7
Cincy (-3.5)=.5
Miami (-9)=6
playoffs:
KC (-7)=4
NE (-3.5)=.5

this would put them in the same class as Miami and worse than Washington, I know the NFC is down but that is nonsense to put them worse than Jax, KC, Wash, etc... For a 13-3 team this is ridicuolus!!!

throwback420 · Feb 4, 2007

yeah -6 or -5.5 is solid imo

kermit16 · Feb 4, 2007

Super Bowls have had a long history of being blowouts if you check the record. Also Bears defense has been so-so late season while the Colts defense has shown late season improvement. AFC has been far superior to the NFC so I see the - 6.5 to - 7 fully justified. When you look at the huge disparity at the QB position.... I think the - 6.5 is a bargain ! I guess that's why they call it gambling ! Since I have AFC -2 and -3 and have some nice future wagers on Colts, I will be looking for some + 7 $$ on Bears. It is times like this that I really miss Pinny's live wagering.

themanej2001 · Feb 4, 2007

See this is the common misconception... You say Colts defense has shown improvments and Bears have looked weak? I am confused you are saying lately...

Well Bears last week shut down the number one offense in the NFL...

Colts gave up 30+ points...

Then you guys say the last two games of the playoffs before that and every colts backer is canceling out the fact that the Bears had the best defense in the NFL for half the year... then had nothing to play for and struggled... but even when they struggled they weren't even close to the Colts...

You can not say the Colts have improved and the Bears have fallen off because if you are talking about lately the Bears had the best performance lately in last week...

The Colts improved against the Chiefs and Ravens who refused to change there game plan...

Then struggled against the Patriots who had a hard time figuring out how to score on the Bears...

Look guys don't say the Colts have shown improvement and the Bears are playing worse... This argument makes no sense because the Colts played good against the Ravens and the Chiefs they are improving and that is a big enough sample according to Colts bettors... But the Bears one game sample agianst the best offense or the second best offense int he NFL is nto a big enough sample... How is 2 games a big enough sample but one isn't? Especially when the team with 2 good games had allowed the most rushing yards in the NFL and had the worst defense in the NFL this whole season... while the team with the one game sample was the best defense in the NFL for the first half of the season.

primetime21+ · Feb 4, 2007

Most superbowl lines are inflated because championship games tend to get out of hand late when teams are desperate and panic.

kermit16 · Feb 4, 2007

themanej2001 said:
See this is the common misconception... You say Colts defense has shown improvments and Bears have looked weak? I am confused you are saying lately...

Well Bears last week shut down the number one offense in the NFL...

Colts gave up 30+ points...

Then you guys say the last two games of the playoffs before that and every colts backer is canceling out the fact that the Bears had the best defense in the NFL for half the year... then had nothing to play for and struggled... but even when they struggled they weren't even close to the Colts...

You can not say the Colts have improved and the Bears have fallen off because if you are talking about lately the Bears had the best performance lately in last week...

The Colts improved against the Chiefs and Ravens who refused to change there game plan...

Then struggled against the Patriots who had a hard time figuring out how to score on the Bears...

Look guys don't say the Colts have shown improvement and the Bears are playing worse... This argument makes no sense because the Colts played good against the Ravens and the Chiefs they are improving and that is a big enough sample according to Colts bettors... But the Bears one game sample agianst the best offense or the second best offense int he NFL is nto a big enough sample... How is 2 games a big enough sample but one isn't? Especially when the team with 2 good games had allowed the most rushing yards in the NFL and had the worst defense in the NFL this whole season... while the team with the one game sample was the best defense in the NFL for the first half of the season.

I can say the Colts defense has improved and Bears defense has declined because it just happens to be true. Especially if you consider that most people consider the Bears to have one of the best defenses and the Colts the worst. First the Bears play in the NFC... enough said. Secondly let's just take the last 6 games. Bears mighty defense have given up 243 points for an average of 23.8 while the horrible Colts defense has given up 113 points for an average of 18.8 points a game and that was against the AFC. We are just hours away from finding out. I hope it ends in 7 point Colt win and all the books should take a beating and nobody wagering on the game should lose. GL to all !:toast: :money8:

betedgeonly · Feb 4, 2007

bears

kermit16 said:
I really respect your opinion but on this one I will agree to disagree.
I bought AFC early in season at -2 and - 3 as it was obvious to anyone that the NFC sucked big time. What has changed ? Bear's defense has been so-so since mid season giving up a lot of points to teams like Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Detroit !

u might want to think about the bears position after 10 reg season games, [basically had hm feild advantage for ployoffs]. the last 6 games basically meant nothing. i love the bears but bet against them the last 6 games cause they were just playing to stay healthy. they DESERVE to be in this game.

betedgeonly · Feb 4, 2007

X-Files said:
If i recall the Bears were +3 at NE and it became +4.5 close to gametime.
And the Colts were a pick at NE.

Based on that info alone that might make the Bears anywhere from +6 to
+9 at Indy during the regular season, depending on a number of things,
such as how many points you give the HF advantage, in particular the
Indy HF. If i am not mistaken they are in a dome and were 8-0 during
this regular season.

If the Super Bowl were being played in the cold north i suspect the line
would not be so high.

simply put, u should pull your head out of your tits

. lol nice jugs

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