In terms of playoffs!!!!!! He has the worst touchdown to int ratio of any super bowl winning QB's playoff run in NFL HISTORY!!!!!! The only other Qb to have more int's than td's during the course of their championship run is Bradshaw in 75. Manning's 3td's to seven picks is by far the worst PLAYOFF performance ever!!! So enough with all this talk about Manning winning a Super bowl, it's a team sport and Manning basically didn't do much in this playoff run. Jeeez it's incredible how the media puts such a spin on events and we just follow along!!! Christ Trent Dilfer with his 3 tds (same amount as Manning same amount of games) did better (1 int to 7) in "leading" his team to victory, and he gets crucified in the media. Enough already, Manning did the least of all previous winning Qb's in the playoffs!!!!!
Journeyman said:
This is BS... This guy gets all the credit when they win and passes the buck when he loses....
1 year he had "protection problems"... The next b/c they lost b/c they were on the road... Finnally, it was to cold outside and they are an indoor team... He threw his OL under the bus last year... LOL
Journeyman said:
So what? I am just showing how your statement that he deserves credit when they win b/c he takes the blame when they lose is far from correct...
He made his Ol the scapegoat last year and should have given them props this year... 190 yards rushing and 8 seconds to throw the ball every down... The OL was the true MVP...
Manning did deserve the MVP. If Rhodes and Addai wouldn't have had equally big games, thus cancelling each other out, you gotta go with Manning.
To have the game he did and run that offense against that D in those conditions was impressive. Statline wasn't great, but still pretty good when you take into consideration the game was played IN A DOWNPOUR.
To have the game he did and run that offense against that D in those conditions was impressive. Statline wasn't great, but still pretty good when you take into consideration the game was played IN A DOWNPOUR.
For the stat geeks...Brady's first SB line in which he was MVP:
16-27 145yds 1 TD
Brady is considered a God and is rightfully considered one of the best QBs ever. Statistically not a great SB but because of the final drive was MVP. Peyton statiscally was better and more importantly managed the game perfectly just like Brady. Get over it Manning haters.
16-27 145yds 1 TD
Brady is considered a God and is rightfully considered one of the best QBs ever. Statistically not a great SB but because of the final drive was MVP. Peyton statiscally was better and more importantly managed the game perfectly just like Brady. Get over it Manning haters.
Conflicting versions
Manning claimed in his book that, while in the training room, in response to a track athlete who made a remark, Manning dropped his shorts to moon the athlete. "I did it thinking the trainer wasn't where she would see. ... Even when she did, it seemed like something she'd have laughed at, considering the environment, or shrugged off as harmless. Crude maybe, but harmless."
Naughright and her lawyer provided a different version of events. In a court filing, her lawyer wrote that she was examining Manning to see why Manning was having pain in one of his feet and was crouched behind him when "entirely unprovoked, Peyton Manning decided to pull down his shorts and sit on Dr. Naughright's head and face."
As Naughright described it in a deposition entered into the court record: "It was the gluteus maximus, the rectum, the testicles and the area in between the testicles. And all that was on my face when I pushed him up. ... To get leverage, I took my head out to push him up and off."
The court record includes a letter to Manning from former Tennessee cross country runner Malcolm Saxon, who Manning said was the intended target of the mooning. Written in December 2002, the letter reads, in part: "Bro, you have tons of class, but you have shown no mercy or grace to this lady who was on her knees seeing if you had a stress fracture. ...
"She was minding her own business when your book came out. Peyton, the way I see it, at this point, you are going to take a hit either way, if you settle out of court or if it goes to court. You might as well maintain some dignity and admit to what happened. ... Your celebrity doesn't mean you can treat folks that way. ... Do the right thing here."
In a court filing, Naughright's lawyer says his client reported the incident within hours to the Sexual Assault Crisis Center in Knoxville.
According to a filing by Naughright's lawyer, Manning at first didn't call the incident a "mooning." The lawyer wrote that Manning "denied" that anything had occurred between him and Naughright. An associate trainer, Mike Rollo, was never a witness to the incident, but he got involved because he tried to intervene to help Manning come up with a story.
In a deposition cited in the filing, Rollo was asked if Naughright had ever referred to the incident as mooning. "No, unfortunately, I think that tagging is with me," Rollo answered.
The next question: "In other words, you were the first person to characterize it as a mooning, is that correct?"
"Unfortunately."
Reached by telephone Monday, Rollo referred questions to Tennessee's lawyers, who didn't return telephone calls Monday.
In court documents, Naughright's lawyer wrote that after the incident with Manning, Manning taunted her by re-enacting his conduct on two occasions. The document also said that Manning called her a "bitch" during a drug test, when he snatched a pen, which he was supposed to use to sign and date the specimen, and threw it across the room.
Manning claimed in his book that, while in the training room, in response to a track athlete who made a remark, Manning dropped his shorts to moon the athlete. "I did it thinking the trainer wasn't where she would see. ... Even when she did, it seemed like something she'd have laughed at, considering the environment, or shrugged off as harmless. Crude maybe, but harmless."
Naughright and her lawyer provided a different version of events. In a court filing, her lawyer wrote that she was examining Manning to see why Manning was having pain in one of his feet and was crouched behind him when "entirely unprovoked, Peyton Manning decided to pull down his shorts and sit on Dr. Naughright's head and face."
As Naughright described it in a deposition entered into the court record: "It was the gluteus maximus, the rectum, the testicles and the area in between the testicles. And all that was on my face when I pushed him up. ... To get leverage, I took my head out to push him up and off."
The court record includes a letter to Manning from former Tennessee cross country runner Malcolm Saxon, who Manning said was the intended target of the mooning. Written in December 2002, the letter reads, in part: "Bro, you have tons of class, but you have shown no mercy or grace to this lady who was on her knees seeing if you had a stress fracture. ...
"She was minding her own business when your book came out. Peyton, the way I see it, at this point, you are going to take a hit either way, if you settle out of court or if it goes to court. You might as well maintain some dignity and admit to what happened. ... Your celebrity doesn't mean you can treat folks that way. ... Do the right thing here."
In a court filing, Naughright's lawyer says his client reported the incident within hours to the Sexual Assault Crisis Center in Knoxville.
According to a filing by Naughright's lawyer, Manning at first didn't call the incident a "mooning." The lawyer wrote that Manning "denied" that anything had occurred between him and Naughright. An associate trainer, Mike Rollo, was never a witness to the incident, but he got involved because he tried to intervene to help Manning come up with a story.
In a deposition cited in the filing, Rollo was asked if Naughright had ever referred to the incident as mooning. "No, unfortunately, I think that tagging is with me," Rollo answered.
The next question: "In other words, you were the first person to characterize it as a mooning, is that correct?"
"Unfortunately."
Reached by telephone Monday, Rollo referred questions to Tennessee's lawyers, who didn't return telephone calls Monday.
In court documents, Naughright's lawyer wrote that after the incident with Manning, Manning taunted her by re-enacting his conduct on two occasions. The document also said that Manning called her a "bitch" during a drug test, when he snatched a pen, which he was supposed to use to sign and date the specimen, and threw it across the room.
wannabe whale said:
How is this a bad thread?!? It's not a reflection of his career, but of the overhyping the winning of a super bowl for an individual, in the toughest team sport of all. His numbers are the worst of a super bowl winning quarterback, yet he's being praised, Dilfer had better numbers during the playoffs and he still gets ripped. I'm not saying Dilfer is better (not even close) it's just another example of a terrible spin by the media. Still Dilfer had a better run and gets crucified. I don't think that Ravens team wins the bowl with a Qb throwing seven picks!!!
Fishhead said:
Where did you get 68.4? Anyhow Winters was one of the best plan B free agent pick ups ever. Dallas used it to get Novacek from Phoenix, GB picked KC's pocket by grabbing Winters. Winters, Taylor, Timmerman, Michels, and Dotson formed a very underrated line, blocking for the slightly overrated Favre.
