Palmer vs Ben Roth-Who's better?

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  • Carson Palmer

    Votes: 40 71.4%
  • Ben Roth

    Votes: 16 28.6%

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I put up a poll, please vote, any responses would be helpful too. Thanks
 

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Matt24 said:
I put up a poll, please vote, any responses would be helpful too. Thanks

Ben Roth gets no respect. Anybody who paid attention during their Super Bowl run realized that he played flawlessly until the Super Bowl. The Denver perfromance was spectacular. Take away the one interception when the Steelers were inside the 10, up about 4, and about to take control, and there could have been a blow-out and nobody would even criticize him. As it happened, they were lucky to win after that.

Ben can play. He almost killed himself last year riding the motorcycle, then tried to come back after having his appendix taken out.

The Steelers went 15-1 his first year, and won the Super Bowl in his second. He would be my guy to start a team with. He'll be back next year.
 

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Matt, you have a bet with a stupid pitt fan? Nobody could possiably think on talent and performance alone that ben would be better than carson.

Even though I hate pitt, I did graduate from miami oh so I dont really hate ben per se, but dont mind seeing him do shitty
 

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dialitup said:
Ben Roth gets no respect. Anybody who paid attention during their Super Bowl run realized that he played flawlessly until the Super Bowl. The Denver perfromance was spectacular. Take away the one interception when the Steelers were inside the 10, up about 4, and about to take control, and there could have been a blow-out and nobody would even criticize him. As it happened, they were lucky to win after that.

Ben can play. He almost killed himself last year riding the motorcycle, then tried to come back after having his appendix taken out.

The Steelers went 15-1 his first year, and won the Super Bowl in his second. He would be my guy to start a team with. He'll be back next year.

If he is who youd pick to start a team around out of everyone else in the NFL you are a moron :ohno:
 

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Rothlisberger is a younger Trent Dilfer. An average QB with a great running game and great defense who was at the right place at the right time. If he was in Houston he'd be worse than David Carr. In Detoroit he'd proabbly be just as bad as Joey Harrington was.

Carson Palmer is a top 5 QB in this league without question.
 

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Is this honestly a question? Palmer has the potential of being a hall of fame QB... if nothing goes wrong in his career he may go down as one of the all time greats....



while ben is a game manager... that turns and hands the ball off 40 times a game
 

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roach23 said:
Rothlisberger is a younger Trent Dilfer. An average QB with a great running game and great defense who was at the right place at the right time. If he was in Houston he'd be worse than David Carr. In Detoroit he'd proabbly be just as bad as Joey Harrington was.

Carson Palmer is a top 5 QB in this league without question.

Pass the pipe this way please
 

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We all know they measure how good you are as a QB in the NFL with how many Superbowls you win regardless of how you win them ugly or not

Scoreboard

Big ben 1 - Carson Palmer 0

its simple
 

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Dante said:
We all know they measure how good you are as a QB in the NFL with how many Superbowls you win regardless of how you win them ugly or not

Scoreboard

Big ben 1 - Carson Palmer 0

its simple

dante you really simplified this. so before the other night you are saying Trent Dilfer was better than Peyton Manning as a QB and now they are dead even?
 

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roach23 said:
Rothlisberger is a younger Trent Dilfer. An average QB with a great running game and great defense who was at the right place at the right time. If he was in Houston he'd be worse than David Carr. In Detoroit he'd proabbly be just as bad as Joey Harrington was.

Then why didn't the Steelers win with Neil O'Donnell or Mike Tomczak or Kordell Stewart or Tommy Maddox or Kent Graham under Cowher? They weren't in the "right place at the right time?"

Big Ben has "it." He is a winner. And that is the most important part of being a great QB. It has nothing to do with stats.
 

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Matt24 said:
dante you really simplified this. so before the other night you are saying Trent Dilfer was better than Peyton Manning as a QB and now they are dead even?


matt, its common football knowledge around the nfl that Trent Dilfer is actually a better qb than Dan Marino ever was
 

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Carson Palmer might be the most over-rated QB in the league. On NFL PrimeTime/The Blitz Tom Jackson talked about him all year long. I cannot remember a defining moment in his career so far, except getting knocked out on the first play last year in the playoffs against the Steelers.

Carson Looks like a QB. He came from a great school in USC that has had some publicity for high-profile position players. He certainly hasn't ever taken my breath away with his ability.

Can you name one crunch-time drive or even a great pass in a tough situation that stands out in his career?

He hasn't done SHIT. Maybe he will someday, but my bets are with continued hype and lousy suckass results.....just like the Bengals lately, and just like the Cubs in baseball.

Win a big game just once and then we will talk.
 

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Some QB's just have the intangibles and that "it"/luck factor, I mean if it wasn't for Big Ben's tackle/trip after Bettis' fumble. They might not have made it to the Super Bowl.
 

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just off the top of my head, he drove the bengals 90 yards for a td in the snow, in denver for a td to potentially tie the game in a game that would lock up a playoff spot.

thats not crunch time?
 

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Matt24 said:
dante you really simplified this. so before the other night you are saying Trent Dilfer was better than Peyton Manning as a QB and now they are dead even?
Matt...trent was better then payton if you count Superbowls which is what the NFL fans judge you on

all things even now we KNOW manning is way better he has a ring and much better stats and probably will get more rings in his career

again this is how 99% of the fans judge you in the nfl.. IMO
 

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Dante said:
Matt...trent was better then payton if you count Superbowls which is what the NFL fans judge you on

again this is how 99% of the fans judge you in the nfl.. IMO

i have a hard time believing that if I polled 100 NFL fans 3 weeks ago that 99 say that Dilfer was better than Peyton. I have such a hard time believing it that I would risk my whole bankroll to win a lousy $20.

Currently we are polling Palmer vs Ben, by your theory 99% would have Ben picked. I really don't think this is how NFL fans look at it
 

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just off the top of my head, he drove the bengals 90 yards for a td in the snow, in denver for a td to potentially tie the game in a game that would lock up a playoff spot.

thats not crunch time?

A quarterback leads his team to a touchdown in the NFL. Team loses game. If that's your highlight then so be it. Who remembers that drive? Nothing spectacular about scoring a TD in the NFL. Jake Plummer led the league in comebacks at Arizona.
 

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dialitup said:
Carson Palmer might be the most over-rated QB in the league.


eh, I don't know about that. He had a great year last year 32 TDs/12 INTs while completing 68% of his passes, a remarkable year, very unfortunate that he was injured on his first pass in the opening playoff game vs the Steelers. This year he had 28 TDs/13 INTs. Yes they faltered this year though, but I have a hard time blaming him on the bobbled snap vs Denver or the 2nd most accurate kicker in NFL history missing a 39 yarder to get them in the playoffs this year vs the Steelers.
 

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