Could The DOJ Nail Doyle Brunson?

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We all know that Doyle sponsors a poker room with his name attached. We all know that it is illegal to play poker offshore from the USA. Just wondring if the DOJ could just walk up to Doyle when he's playing in a tournament and "detain" him? Why not? They're nailing everyone else. Pam Anderson who had her name attached to a Doyle clone, decided it "wasn't for her"! Just wondering if her lawyers recommended that she get her name off the poker room with the current conditions existing in this country. Bet they did! Wonder why Doyle hasn't?
 

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You make an excellent point! I sure hope they don't go after the "Dolly" though.....he is a hell of a American.
 

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It's not illegal to use your name to promote a company as long as he don't own it/work there and accept US customers..
 

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But they did accept US customers for a long long time... And you have to wonder if he has any portion of ownership.

Seems though the gov's only tool for fighting is the wire act and they dont seem to want to take that beyond the sportsbook realm.

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SportSavant said:
what about Jim Kelly and SIA?

What about .......

Other athletes?
Poker pros?
Forum mods/owners?
Sports touts?
ESPN?
Travel Channel?
Online gamblers?
Etc., etc.


Hell, the Feds could arrest 97.5% of the country if they so desired............but remember, one is innocent until proven guilty.
 

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The difference with Kelly is he's just being paid for a commercial endorsement. I'm pretty sure Dolly has a piece of the action.
 

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Fishhead said:
What about .......

Other athletes?
Poker pros?
Forum mods/owners?
Sports touts?
ESPN?
Travel Channel?
Online gamblers?
Etc., etc.


Hell, the Feds could arrest 97.5% of the country if they so desired............but remember, one is innocent until proven guilty.

Or...two old lady's. Yup...here in Cali...a bartender and waitress at an Elks Club in Riverside were arrested for making a $5.00/square football pool for the Super Bowl. They each face 6 months in jail and a fine of $10,000.00. When asked about the arrest, the D.A. simply said they had to act upon a tip that gambling was taking place and that they must uphold the law's regarding such activity. It's an F'ed up world we live in, in case you forgot.
 

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cheapseats said:
Or...two old lady's. Yup...here in Cali...a bartender and waitress at an Elks Club in Riverside were arrested for making a $5.00/square football pool for the Super Bowl. They each face 6 months in jail and a fine of $10,000.00. When asked about the arrest, the D.A. simply said they had to act upon a tip that gambling was taking place and that they must uphold the law's regarding such activity. It's an F'ed up world we live in, in case you forgot.


Doesn't surprise me in the least.............
 

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one is innocent until proven guilty.

that may be true in theory but not in practice.

lets take the Neteller guys for example, most likely they are innocent of these ludicrous charges, and most likely a jury would find them to be innocent, HOWEVER, they will have such outrageous prison terms threatened against them, they will most lilkey PLEAD GUILTY (even though they are not) in order to get probabtion and walk from all of this. (what would you do if you were facing 20 years and then offered probabation if you admit it).

the DOJ will use FEAR and SCARE tactics to get what they want, and unfortunatly (can you blame them), faced with life in prison these folks will admit to something they didnt do. Thus it will go down in the books as a victory and set a precendent that this was money laundering and the system will continue to be manipulated.

its really sad (imo) but I do beleive the "rule of law" is so terribly perverted that justice is near impossible.
 

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I'm not so sure the one guy will not fight. If it was me and they offered probation and I got to keep my $100m I'd agree in about negative 3 seconds, but from what I have read about the one guy, he may well not just say ok...

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sean1 said:
I'm not so sure the one guy will not fight. If it was me and they offered probation and I got to keep my $100m I'd agree in about negative 3 seconds, but from what I have read about the one guy, he may well not just say ok...

Sean

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This Lawrence guy is going to fight it with the best possible lawyers.
 

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He says he'll fight, but the problem is if the DOJ feels they may lose, at any time, they can make it too easy for him not to fight...

They may start out offering 5 years, then 2 years, then a $5m fine... They already got what they want - neteller shut down. If they get down to offering probation or say 100 hours of community service, it would be very hard to spend millions on legal fees and risk 20 years... especially if they let him plead no contest instead of guilty.

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Fishhead said:
What about .......

Other athletes?
Poker pros?
Forum mods/owners?
Sports touts?
ESPN?
Travel Channel?
Online gamblers?
Etc., etc.


Hell, the Feds could arrest 97.5% of the country if they so desired............but remember, one is innocent until proven guilty.


Heck why stop there they could arrest FORUM POSTERS ...just for posting about poker... they could put all Posters ( half a BILLION of them ) in a Min security prison with internet access to a regular forum as there 1 hr of recreation per day, since they are posting addicts,.something like the cooking forum or knitting forum is the only place they could post

good god people get real!!!!! get off the paranoia for just a bit!
 

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Helmuth bragged to a friend of mine about a year ago that his stock in UltimateBet was worth $23 million. Maybe these guys are not in the DOJ's sights.
 

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Owning stock or being a limited partner is safe. You are 100% free of charge if the company is charged. For instance, shareholders could not be charged when Enron committed fraud.

Now the question comes down to promoting. If you are promoting these sites are you breaking the law? That has not been decided yet in court, the DOJ has not allowed a court to rule on it, even saying they would not harass casinocity to get it tossed out of court.

Sean
 

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