PokerStars- Are you kidding me?

Not sure if its rigged but always had suspicion that certain players accounts are favored to win. As long as some can win consisently the herds will follow. Doing well in $24 tourney and look at these 3 hands all against the same player who is a winning player at PS. All his chips are in each time and GoGo is huge favorite in 2 of them and strong fav in another. All 3 hands within 1 hour. To top it off last hand of tourney GoGo all in preflop with JJ vs 88 against another player...of course 8 hits the flop. Hard to believe

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PokerStars Game #8775655712: Tournament #44300646, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit
- Level VII (100/200) - 2007/03/06 - 21:42:38 (ET)
Table '44300646 46' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: simsina (4460 in chips)
Seat 2: kgjxs37 (14900 in chips)
Seat 3: GoGoBird (9350 in chips)
Seat 4: Lt.Cmdr.Data (1625 in chips)
Seat 5: icrazy (4835 in chips)
Seat 6: cane3418 (5896 in chips)
Seat 7: GISSMEN (1665 in chips)
Seat 8: pokersean420 (8265 in chips)
Seat 9: Improved (5725 in chips)
simsina: posts the ante 25
kgjxs37: posts the ante 25
GoGoBird: posts the ante 25
Lt.Cmdr.Data: posts the ante 25
icrazy: posts the ante 25
cane3418: posts the ante 25
GISSMEN: posts the ante 25
pokersean420: posts the ante 25
Improved: posts the ante 25
GISSMEN: posts small blind 100
pokersean420: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GoGoBird [5s 5h]
Improved: folds
simsina: folds
kgjxs37: folds
GoGoBird: raises 400 to 600
Lt.Cmdr.Data: folds
icrazy: folds
cane3418: folds
GISSMEN: raises 1040 to 1640 and is all-in
pokersean420: folds
GoGoBird: calls 1040
*** FLOP *** [5d 3c Qh]
*** TURN *** [5d 3c Qh] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [5d 3c Qh 6h] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GISSMEN: shows [4c 4h] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
GoGoBird: shows [5s 5h] (three of a kind, Fives)
GISSMEN collected 3705 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3705 | Rake 0
Board [5d 3c Qh 6h 2c]
Seat 1: simsina folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: kgjxs37 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GoGoBird showed [5s 5h] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 4: Lt.Cmdr.Data folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: icrazy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: cane3418 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: GISSMEN (small blind) showed [4c 4h] and won (3705) with a straight,
Deuce to Six
Seat 8: pokersean420 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Improved folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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PokerStars Game #8775884679: Tournament #44300646, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit
- Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/03/06 - 21:55:54 (ET)
Table '44300646 46' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: simsina (11420 in chips)
Seat 2: kgjxs37 (13700 in chips)
Seat 3: GoGoBird (8260 in chips)
Seat 4: bankrollme87 (9715 in chips)
Seat 5: SalvoNapoli (13570 in chips)
Seat 6: cane3418 (10967 in chips)
Seat 7: GISSMEN (2130 in chips)
Seat 8: pokersean420 (8361 in chips)
Seat 9: Improved (2383 in chips)
simsina: posts the ante 25
kgjxs37: posts the ante 25
GoGoBird: posts the ante 25
bankrollme87: posts the ante 25
SalvoNapoli: posts the ante 25
cane3418: posts the ante 25
GISSMEN: posts the ante 25
pokersean420: posts the ante 25
Improved: posts the ante 25
kgjxs37: posts small blind 200
GoGoBird: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GoGoBird [As Qd]
bankrollme87: folds
SalvoNapoli: folds
cane3418 has timed out
cane3418: folds
cane3418 is sitting out
cane3418 has returned
GISSMEN: raises 1705 to 2105 and is all-in
pokersean420: folds
Improved: folds
simsina: folds
kgjxs37: folds
GoGoBird: calls 1705
*** FLOP *** [Kc Kh 3c]
*** TURN *** [Kc Kh 3c] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [Kc Kh 3c Tc] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GoGoBird: shows [As Qd] (a pair of Kings)
GISSMEN: shows [Th 9h] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
GISSMEN collected 4635 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4635 | Rake 0
Board [Kc Kh 3c Tc 6h]
Seat 1: simsina (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: kgjxs37 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: GoGoBird (big blind) showed [As Qd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: bankrollme87 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SalvoNapoli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: cane3418 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: GISSMEN showed [Th 9h] and won (4635) with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 8: pokersean420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Improved folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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PokerStars Game #8776469904: Tournament #44300646, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit
- Level X (400/800) - 2007/03/06 - 22:29:53 (ET)
Table '44300646 46' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: simsina (38391 in chips)
Seat 2: Jamie217 (7596 in chips)
Seat 3: GoGoBird (10426 in chips)
Seat 4: bankrollme87 (5815 in chips)
Seat 5: HYDROTOP (12494 in chips)
Seat 6: cane3418 (11827 in chips)
Seat 7: GISSMEN (8970 in chips)
Seat 8: pokersean420 (10311 in chips)
Seat 9: stud_seven (8705 in chips)
simsina: posts the ante 50
Jamie217: posts the ante 50
GoGoBird: posts the ante 50
bankrollme87: posts the ante 50
HYDROTOP: posts the ante 50
cane3418: posts the ante 50
GISSMEN: posts the ante 50
pokersean420: posts the ante 50
stud_seven: posts the ante 50
bankrollme87: posts small blind 400
HYDROTOP: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GoGoBird [Kh Ks]
cane3418: folds
GISSMEN: raises 8120 to 8920 and is all-in
pokersean420: folds
stud_seven: folds
simsina: folds
Jamie217: folds
GoGoBird: raises 1456 to 10376 and is all-in
bankrollme87: folds
HYDROTOP: folds
*** FLOP *** [6s Qd 2d]
*** TURN *** [6s Qd 2d] [Ah]
*** RIVER *** [6s Qd 2d Ah] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GISSMEN: shows [Qc Ad] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
GoGoBird: shows [Kh Ks] (a pair of Kings)
GISSMEN collected 19490 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19490 | Rake 0
Board [6s Qd 2d Ah Td]
Seat 1: simsina folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Jamie217 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GoGoBird (button) showed [Kh Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: bankrollme87 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: HYDROTOP (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: cane3418 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: GISSMEN showed [Qc Ad] and won (19490) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 8: pokersean420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: stud_seven folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Was This A Rebuy Tourney??? They Are The Worst For That Shhttp://forum.therx.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=109it. Cant Believe Some Of These People Call Themselves Card Players.

Dont forget to vote!!!

no, wasn't a rebuy...just can't believe same player, 3 hands in one hour. Then JJ vs 88 and GoGo is on the rail. GoGo does have the Chip lead in the $3 rebuy that started at 8. Can't wait to see how PS takes me down.

Im confused. Are you speaking in third person or is this some other person named GoGo?

Time, lol, there only is one GoGo.

Welcome to my world. :nohead:

LOL i was thinking the same thing about gogo

Gogo I dont like how you played the 55 hand. You should have mucked it and not even been in the hand.

The Aq vs 10 9 you are not that big a favorite but didnt cost you much so not a big deal.

KK vs AQ he played it horrible. All in preflop with AQ? Very questionable and would lead me to think he was a house player.

this is just what timetopay thinks

Time, you really think the 55 hand was played poorly? Raised from middle position with nobody in the pot. Was forced to call all in for $1000 more as was pot committed.

The call I understand but dont think at that point of tourney I get cute with 55. Just my thought.

Timetopay said:

Im confused. Are you speaking in third person or is this some other person named GoGo?

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Gogo likes that ....to each there own.... im not sure why gogo decided to keep betting in that one hand when gogo had AQ and the flop had 2 kings there. me thinks gogobird should have open his wings and flapped away for that one hand :drink:

Dante said:

Gogo likes that ....to each there own.... im not sure why gogo decided to keep betting in that one hand when gogo had AQ and the flop had 2 kings there. me thinks gogobird should have open his wings and flapped away for that one hand :drink:

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I think they were all-in preflop...

Dante said:

Gogo likes that ....to each there own.... im not sure why gogo decided to keep betting in that one hand when gogo had AQ and the flop had 2 kings there. me thinks gogobird should have open his wings and flapped away for that one hand :drink:

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Gogo would say to reread hand history cause Gogo called all in preflop when blinds were 400. That was right play

?????????? I'm not sure i understand, something unusual happened here ??????????
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Timetopay said:

Gogo would say to reread hand history cause Gogo called all in preflop when blinds were 400. That was right play

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dante stands corrected ....gogobird did the right thing dante did not notice the ALL IN preflop

GoGo just stumbled upon something I have realize about online poker. Value thinks Its definitely possible to predefine the hot players for the day and the cold players for the day without drastically changing the statistics of certain hands. Value thinks you can easily define players that will hit 70% on coin flips on one day and define them to hit only 30% on coin flips on the next day. The days where the players are defined as hot will keep them addicted to the game. This is Value's take on online poker.

I have played poker for many years. Only a handfull of people can win. If you arn't one of them, you never will be. you, meaning everyone in general. If you play poker and you dont do it for a living, just make sure you know going in, Its entertainment only. I know pros that can't win online. 2 completely different beasts. Live poker vs Online poker. IMHO, there is no way one of these major poker sites, worth billions, looking to sell to whoever will buy them out, are not going to fix a $24 tourney. Everyone has the same chance to win, but luck wins online way more than live. I dont know much, but thanks for reading.

You guys need counseling

People that claim site rigging or blame the site (poker & casinos)
a) haven't played enough
- and/or -
b) have no clue about statistics, probability and variance

55 (79.44%) v 44 (17.88%)
AQ (62.64%) v T9 (37.02%)
KK (71.44%) v AQ (28.22%)

So the odds of 44, T9 and AQ all winning are:

0.1788 x .3702 x .2822 = 0.0187 = 1.87% = 1 in 53.5

How many hands of poker have you played? How many tournaments?

What is statistically improbable, is that NOT ever happening. It's going to happen, 1 in 53.5 times, statistically.

Your odds have having pocket aces on the next hand is less. 4/52 * 3/51 = 0.452%, or 1 in 221. But it happens.


I was playing a tournament the other day, after a beat that took all but $15 of my stack, I was all-in 4 consecutive random hands (starting with 83o), and won them all, took $15 to $2500 (antes made that possible). What are the odds of that?! I then lost an all-in a few hands later, my AQ (folded to button) versus QT (BB).