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I know this probably the 5th Real Estate thread in the past 2 weeks. I am only responsibile for about 2 of them but I trust and respect many peoples judgement on here on matters like this.

I went to a top notch loan officer and got some good info. Now I have to decide which the best route to pursue when doing this. Getting loans is not as difficult as I thought espciailly if these properties are occupied by rentors.

Is it better to:
1) fix and flip houses that need alot of work.

2) buy decent homes from distressed sellers with low ball offers and hope to turn around and sell a year later at market prices. Hopefully timing the market.

3) go longterm appraoch by renting them out more or less breakeven and sell in 5 years, 10 years, 30 years.

4) I have an oppurtunity to buy 2 houses from a guy that has 2 proven rentors in them all ready who have never been late on a payment, as he is moving away. Maybe a combined $100 a month posititve cash flow from both but longterm rentors will probably pay down alot of the interest.

5) get into foreclosures but have heard that is a little watered down as alot of others are into this.


More or less wondering how you guys do this? Maybe hear some of the good and the bad from others. Is there any short term (3 years or less) possibilites to make this beneficial if I go at this full bore. I usually don't like to do something unless it is 110% or just not do it at all.

If anyone wants to share off the forum, get my email from a mod. This is something I want to do but I need to find the best approach and when I figure that out than I will go for it.
 

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Look for local courses or programs offered on real estate investing, and read books. I wouldn't suggest going full bore based on the advice of RX'ers.
 
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Big time? You want big time?

Find a growing city, buy a 1x1 mile chunk of land a few miles outside of the existing development, and make a nice mid-upper class neighborhood out of it.

It obviously takes access to millions-and quite a few of them, but it can be done

The owner of a landscaping company in Omaha did it and I don't even want to know how much $$$$ he made it on. Cornfield to a burb.
 

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Look for local courses or programs offered on real estate investing, and read books. I wouldn't suggest going full bore based on the advice of RX'ers.


have read quite a few books. Just looking for people who have expierenced this and want to share their expierences and have nothing to sell.
 

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it depends on your market...not too sure about the Michigan market.

but i'm an Appraiser in Massachusetts...and flipping isnt exactly 'a guarantee' like it may have been a few years back, w/ a slow market. I've run into a few properties lately where the person has basically done a flip job...did a lot of great work...but just cant seem to find a buyer for a profit...and selling it to a 'friend' for in essence how much it cost him to upgrade the house.

Also- in my market foreclosures are through the roof...record breaking numbers...finding distressed sellers has been a popular mechanism, i've seen...just did a property this week...where the person is buying a house for a good percentage less, because of foreclosure is immenent...but the problem is finding distressed sellers, if you're not in RE industry already.
 

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it depends on your market...not too sure about the Michigan market.

but i'm an Appraiser in Massachusetts...and flipping isnt exactly 'a guarantee' like it may have been a few years back, w/ a slow market. I've run into a few properties lately where the person has basically done a flip job...did a lot of great work...but just cant seem to find a buyer for a profit...and selling it to a 'friend' for in essence how much it cost him to upgrade the house.

Also- in my market foreclosures are through the roof...record breaking numbers...finding distressed sellers has been a popular mechanism, i've seen...just did a property this week...where the person is buying a house for a good percentage less, because of foreclosure is immenent...but the problem is finding distressed sellers, if you're not in RE industry already.


Is maybe just making A LOT of lowball offers the way to find out by them countering or actually excepting them or does this just not happen much.
 

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it depends on your market...not too sure about the Michigan market.

but i'm an Appraiser in Massachusetts...and flipping isnt exactly 'a guarantee' like it may have been a few years back, w/ a slow market. I've run into a few properties lately where the person has basically done a flip job...did a lot of great work...but just cant seem to find a buyer for a profit...and selling it to a 'friend' for in essence how much it cost him to upgrade the house.

Also- in my market foreclosures are through the roof...record breaking numbers...finding distressed sellers has been a popular mechanism, i've seen...just did a property this week...where the person is buying a house for a good percentage less, because of foreclosure is immenent...but the problem is finding distressed sellers, if you're not in RE industry already.

MAI here in LA...nice to see someone in the same buz here at the RX.
 

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Is maybe just making A LOT of lowball offers the way to find out by them countering or actually excepting them or does this just not happen much.

Probably better to offer low-end of the range of values vs low-balling. I live on Lake Michigan and the people who low-ball just get laughed at, thus building a reputation fast of a person who won't pay market value. Fish had some good advice a few weeks ago. Buy land in unincorporated areas just outside of growing areas.
 

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new development in arizona...right south of las vegas...golden valley az...triple your money by 2010...do some research on it...it is the hottest thing going out this way....bought some land about 7 months ago and have had the chance to double the price...but 2010 when the bridge is done ...look out....:money8: :money8: :money8:
 

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A friend just bought a condo in vegas for $205,000 was listed for 6 months @ $279,000.

Paid cash and closed in 2 days.

I don't know what the current real estate situation is in vegas, but this seemed odd to me. Might be some bargains there.
 

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$1 positive monthly cashflow = good purchase.
$100 = no brainer

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Don't expect to get rich quick unless you do your homework and find an area that will be appreciating a lot in the near future. Even at 10% appreciation per year you will have to wait a while to sell to profit.
 

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A friend just bought a condo in vegas for $205,000 was listed for 6 months @ $279,000.

Paid cash and closed in 2 days.

I don't know what the current real estate situation is in vegas, but this seemed odd to me. Might be some bargains there.

because he paid cash.


No dealing with 45 days or so to take over ownership/. So the seller probably said okay lets do this.
 

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if your looking to get into RE, you couldn't have picked a better time. I would snatch up anything you see is undervalued within the next year and hold on. We should hit the bottom of this market pretty soon. Low-ball tactic is not the way to go. Develop a relationship with a broker and he/she will start calling you when they find a property that comes accross their desk. Thats what my friend does,when he sees value he calls up his guy w/ alot of cash and gives him first dibs...quite often, he makes an offer sight unseen, thats how you get the deals...with all these sub prime lenders going belly up and all the kids that got loans they shouldn't have gotten in the first place forclosing on their "investment" propertys, you can finds some deals, patience & persistence....if the feds lower rates b/c of this sub prime lender deal, that might hurt you a little....personally, i like it when the rates are sky high, Thats how the rich get richer. Think about it. GL
 

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I just bought a 4-plex in Fargo, ND in November. I just finally got all the apartments rented and am looking at a monthly income of about $300-400. I took a 2nd mortgage on my house for 30G to put down on this $150000 4-plex. It is my first RE investment.


I am also looking into foreclosures but don't know where to find them. Has anyone used the online companies or have any advise?
 

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Big time? You want big time?

Find a growing city, buy a 1x1 mile chunk of land a few miles outside of the existing development, and make a nice mid-upper class neighborhood out of it.

It obviously takes access to millions-and quite a few of them, but it can be done

The owner of a landscaping company in Omaha did it and I don't even want to know how much $$$$ he made it on. Cornfield to a burb.
was his screen name fishhead? lol:money8: :money8:
 

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I'm going to look to start a fund to swoop in and buy out distressed condo flippers in Miami. Something like 25000 units will be completed this year and many are unable to close. Been reading people are selling below 2003 presale prices... Now if I can just come upon a few hundred million :)

Sean
 

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The normal Monopoly Board is a good start but you really havent arrived until you can sit back and play the delux model. :drink:
 

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