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Canada may bar you for old DUI

By Ed Perkins
Tribune Media Services
Published March 18, 2007


If you've ever had a DUI conviction or been convicted of certain other offenses -- even minor ones -- you may not be welcome in Canada. No matter that your conviction was a youthful indiscretion, committed many years ago; it may still be enough to bar you.

With the new U.S.-Canadian agreements, border officials are able to search your background info much more easily than before. And this may be just the beginning. Before long, "data mining" examinations for past misdeeds are likely to spread to other countries.

C.W. Nevius of the San Francisco Chronicle tipped me off to this story. He had recently interviewed some American travelers who had tried to fly to Canada, only to be refused admission at the Vancouver airport and put on planes back to the U.S. Canadian border agents classed them as "inadmissible," according to government standards. You can see the entire column on www.sfgate.com (use the search tool and enter Nevius).

What makes a potential visitor to Canada unwelcome? Here's how Canada defines "inadmissible," as taken directly from the Canadian Embassy's official Web site (geo.interna tional.gc.ca/can-am/washing ton/visas/inadmissible-en .asp):

"Members of Inadmissible Classes include those who have been convicted of MINOR OFFENCES (including shoplifting, theft, assault, dangerous driving, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of illegal substances, etc.), or of INDICTABLE CRIMINAL OF- FENCES (including assault with a deadly weapon, manslaughter, etc.). As well, those who have been convicted of DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED (DWI) are considered Members of an Inadmissible Class. Driving while under the influence of alcohol is regarded as an extremely serious offence in Canada.

"Those who have received TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS (including parking/speeding tickets, etc.) and other minor violations (i.e. littering, etc.) most likely will NOT be prohibited from entering Canada. Similarly, those who have JUVENILE CONVICTIONS (convictions for crimes committed while under age 18) most likely will NOT be prohibited from entering Canada unless they could have been tried as an adult for their offences."

The Canadian classifications for inadmissible visitors aren't new. What's new is the ability of Canadian border agents to screen -- instantly -- the records of those visitors. Basically, border agents can now pull up the same sort of information a police officer can pull up if you're subject to arrest.

The Canadians are willing to grant exceptions, but you have to ask in advance. The material from the Embassy Web site continues:

"Those who have been convicted of an offence OUTSIDE CANADA, and have had 5 years elapse since the termination of the custodial portion (if any) of the sentence imposed (not the sentence served), may apply for a Minister's APPROVAL OF REHABILITATION. The Minister's Approval will permanently remove the inadmissibility caused by conviction."

You can apply for an Approval of Rehabilitation at Canadian visa offices in Buffalo, Detroit, Los Angeles, New York or Seattle.

For now, the most stringent screening seems to be on travelers who fly to Canada. Although you have to show acceptable ID when you drive across the border, I saw no evidence of any data mining on my most recent trips.

And I don't know how many of the visitors by air actually get background checks. But you can't count on avoiding a data search, even when you enter by car. A border agent always has the right to check.

This is tough stuff. I have no idea how many typical U.S. adults may have had a DUI, shoplifting or drug possession charge sometime in their distant past, but the number has to be in the millions. What I do know is that you don't want to make arrangements for a vacation in Canada, only to be refused admission and returned home.

So if you have any of the listed "inadmissible" convictions on your record, either apply for the "Minister's Approval of Rehabilitation" or go somewhere else. And before you go somewhere else, check to see if it has started to check your past record when you enter.
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Well that's one good feature of anti-terrorism co-operation. It keeps out the riff-raff from the States. You have to realise we are a gentler, kinder, law-abiding community up here.
 

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half our Congressmen and Senators could theoretically be sent back from a vacation ! :drink:
 

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Good.

If you drink and drive, you should lose privileges. I wish we'd spend all this bookie hunting money locking up duis.

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I have no idea how many typical U.S. adults may have had a DUI, shoplifting or drug possession charge sometime in their distant past, but the number has to be in the millions. What I do know is that you don't want to make arrangements for a vacation in Canada, only to be refused admission and returned home.


That has to be a lot of people, probably over 10% of our population, since something like 1% is in jail of some sort at any given time.
 

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I wonder what percentage of the NBA has had to apply for special considerations...
 

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Maybe the Raptors will pull this HCA out during the playoffs ?
 

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wouldnt it be nice if the US shared all this info with all countries? It would prevent (for example) convicted sex predators from landing here in the first place

Funny thing about this canadian thing is how outraged some US citizens were...........it always gives me a chuckle when they get a taste of their own medicine.
 

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11 years ago or so when passing into New York from Canada I was arrested, handcuffed and immediatly brought into some small New York town.

I was then brought to this garden shed that was attached to some house, and it was actually the Judges Chambers.

I had to appear before this judge that slipped on his robe over his pyjamas.

All of this was over a speeding ticket I had received years before in New York but had never paid.

what an experience.
 

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11 years ago or so when passing into New York from Canada I was arrested, handcuffed and immediatly brought into some small New York town.

I was then brought to this garden shed that was attached to some house, and it was actually the Judges Chambers.

I had to appear before this judge that slipped on his robe over his pyjamas.

All of this was over a speeding ticket I had received years before in New York but had never paid.

what an experience.

:lolBIG: You're lucky you didn't get a woodshed beating.

I have a friend (American) who overstayed his tourist permit up there and was jailed with rapists and murderers for a few months. He said the Montreal cops are the most brutal police in North America.
 

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I wonder what percentage of the NBA has had to apply for special considerations...

Probably a good 50% could be "deported" as undesirable, and I'll bet very few have had this paperwork done. The process probably takes a long time,... Raptors to win NBA at long odds. The enforcement seems to be random.

I have some earlier 50-1 to win the East.
 

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This is madness.

This is against human rights; one is free to go wherever he wishes; it alleges that one country is free of all the offenses that disqualify you from entering, which is a blattant lie.

Crazy stuff.
 

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thats old news.
domestic assault will get you free pass back home.
some buddies of mine went hunting upthere 2 of the four couldnt get in because of one charge or the other . one had both dv petion and a dwi. took his gun
 

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:lolBIG: You're lucky you didn't get a woodshed beating.

I have a friend (American) who overstayed his tourist permit up there and was jailed with rapists and murderers for a few months. He said the Montreal cops are the most brutal police in North America.
we went there girlfriend /wife ,girlfriend when we went wife when we came back lol anyways got pulled over for illegal u-turn had to pay it on the spot before we were let go . think it was like 40 bucks 1982-83
 

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we went there girlfriend /wife ,girlfriend when we went wife when we came back lol anyways got pulled over for illegal u-turn had to pay it on the spot before we were let go . think it was like 40 bucks 1982-83

sounds more like Mexico.
 

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This is madness.

This is against human rights; one is free to go wherever he wishes; it alleges that one country is free of all the offenses that disqualify you from entering, which is a blattant lie.

Crazy stuff.

can you possibly be more wrong?

you have the right to go wherever you want in the country where you live, if you want to go elsewhere.........its up to the citizens of that country to figure out if they will TOLERATE you
 

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Let's put a $20 entry fee toll booth on our side of the border and let in.... any and all canadians (who wish to pay their $20.):lol:
 

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