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Oddsmaker with suspicions filed report on Toledo

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<!-- begin text11 div --> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td style="padding-top: 10px;" valign="top"> <!-- begin leftcol --> <!-- template inline -->TOLEDO, Ohio -- A Las Vegas oddsmaker said Monday night that he alerted Nevada gambling authorities and the NCAA 18 months ago about unusually large amounts of money being wagered on University of Toledo football games. On Friday, the U.S. Attorney's Office accused 22-year-old senior UT running back Harvey "Scooter" McDougle Jr. of taking bribes from a gambler in Sterling Heights, Mich., to alter the result of football games and recruiting teammates and members of Toledo's basketball team to do likewise.
The oddsmaker, Kenny White, chief operating officer of Las Vegas Sports Consultants, said that beginning in the 2004 season he and his associates noticed that there was heavy betting on certain Toledo football games and those of another Mid-American Conference team he declined to name.
"But then it stopped and it was just Toledo," he said.
The unusual betting pattern continued into the 2005 season, according to White. As his suspicions grew, he watched tape of all of Toledo's football games in 2004 and part of 2005.
"We really couldn't pinpoint a single player or coach or official," he said. "But we knew something was happening there."
At that point, about October 2005, White said he filed a report with the Nevada Gaming Commission and the NCAA. His report did not mention basketball games.
FBI agents first uncovered a connection between the Sterling Heights gambler, whom they identify as "Gary," and UT athletes in November 2005, according to an affidavit submitted in support of a criminal complaint against McDougle. Neither McDougle nor the alleged Michigan gambler could be reached.
When FBI agents questioned McDougle on Dec. 14, 2006, he told them Gary offered an unnamed UT player as much as $10,000 to sit out a game or number of games but did not say whether the player did so, according to the affidavit.
White declined to reveal the games he believes were affected by the alleged scheme, but he believes the bettors profited largely.
"If they were giving a kid $10,000 to sit a game out, they probably were betting at least $100,000," he said. "I bet you if we tracked the roots, it wasn't one guy. Probably 100 people were in on this knowing what the right side was going to be in those games."
White said the bettors would not have wagered all their money in one place.
"They have to spread them out. I'm sure they used offshore industries and they use Nevada because they know they're going to get paid," he said.
White said the alleged UT scheme is different from other point-shaving schemes, such as scandals in the 1990s involving basketball programs at Northwestern University and Arizona State University, in that one person appeared to be involved only as a recruiter of other players.
But in another way, the scandals are similar.
"Guys are trying to get to these players, and they tell them, 'Hey, you don't have to lose the game. You just don't have to cover the spread.' That seems to be the one common theme. And they talk [the players] into doing these crazy things," White said. "It's pretty big any time a point-shaving scheme happens. We're just glad the FBI found the information they needed and are headed in the right direction."

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as a toledo fan and the rest of the toledo fans.... we knew this was coming... gary pinkel was hard on his players and very discipline... amstutz just seems so laid back... its a shame
 

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wasn't ace-ace privy to all of this? He told us about one of those games--a bowl game. I think he lives in Michigan as well. Better not answer your door Ace-Ace, or you find your name on a subpoena.
 

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At minimum the FEDS will want to talk to ACE just to see where the connection is, if any. That is if they ever catch wind of his posts here involving fixed games . But I'm sure the mods will if not already delete all his posts and threads involving the "FIXED" games. lol, and will probably delete this one as well.
 

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They don't give a shit about a forum poster.
 

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lol, I was just kidding , but don;t think they don't give a shit about a forum poster. IF a forum poster posts that a game is fixed, and then all of a sudden it comes out later it was fixed don't think twice that the feds wouldn't talk to the person who posted it. But I know for a fact that if it was fixed , even though ACE isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, he wouldn't be stupid enough to post it on a popular forum as this let alone any forum at all. BUT Ace should be a litttle worried if someone decides to copy and paste his fixed games thread to the FEDS from here. Not sure if they involved any Toledo games or not?
 

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they did involve toledo games if i remember correctly
 

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no less than 1000 games a year are declared "fixed" by posters at this forum alone.

There is no way anyone would ever get subpoenaed.
 

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Not sure about that WVU. But all those "FIXED" games aren't followed by 30,000 views like ACE has. Big difference when his TAG-LINE reads EX-BOOKIE and a game is fixed according to him with his connections supposedly in Michigan? But his threads started don't go back that far, wonder why,lol? Ace don't worry they have newspapers and phones in prison, you can still phone your picks into DOC'S collect.
 

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Being in-the-know about a fixed game is hardly illegal. Unless ACE-ACE was bribing players he really has no legal liability. And if he were bribing players, do you think he'd be posting about it on this forum?
 

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I remember when 9/11 happened, the FBI looked into a case of someone on the internet posting that something bad was about to happen to the US in a week (this was posted a week before 9/11)

obviously point shaving and 9/11 are very different, but if the FBI cares enough they could surely contact someone who was in the know to at least question them and see who was invovled. very unlikely just saying its possible
 

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Come to think of it was this the game ACE ACE called the Lock of the Century? I remember vaguely but in the end the QB for one of the team couldn't even the throw the ball 10 yards.
 

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lol, I was just kidding , but don;t think they don't give a shit about a forum poster. IF a forum poster posts that a game is fixed, and then all of a sudden it comes out later it was fixed don't think twice that the feds wouldn't talk to the person who posted it. But I know for a fact that if it was fixed , even though ACE isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, he wouldn't be stupid enough to post it on a popular forum as this let alone any forum at all. BUT Ace should be a litttle worried if someone decides to copy and paste his fixed games thread to the FEDS from here. Not sure if they involved any Toledo games or not?

Jim fiest sux here.

you are pathetic at covering yourself.
I can smell you from a mile away.
 

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I will bet any money at all that the jagoff Gradkowski is the guy they paid to sit out. That fukin ass hole thinks his shit doesnt smell but boy is he going to look dumber than he all ready looks when his name comes out.

Chop, you know I despise JFS as much as anyone, how can you tell that Louie is JFS?
 

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I will bet any money at all that the jagoff Gradkowski is the guy they paid to sit out. That fukin ass hole thinks his shit doesnt smell but boy is he going to look dumber than he all ready looks when his name comes out.

Chop, you know I despise JFS as much as anyone, how can you tell that Louie is JFS?

Trust me, He is.
I would bet my forum life on it.
 

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Ace-Ace, The Mirage Management, and anyone with a clue, knew there was stink in the MAC affairs, especially Toledo games.

Ace-Ace, I'm hoping you and this "Gary The Iraqi" in the press releases, aren't on each other's speed-dial?!

Hope the Acer doesn't wind up houka pals in an Uncle Sammie country club with "Gary The Iraqi"..

Just teasing AA!
 

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Ace-Ace, aren't on each other's speed-dial?!

Just teasing AA!

:smoking: does it count if it was a friend of his!!!!

ITS OK...HE HAS 15 PHONES THAT HE PAYS $10 FOR EACH PRE MO'...HE GIVE ME ONE TO USE .SO THEY CANT TRACK IT TO ME:thumbsup:

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