Why are pitchers so bad at batting?

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Is it they only get a bat 1 in every 5 games, or is it they are just historicly bad, and don't practice hitting like the others.
 

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I feel that pitchers not being able to hit is like NBA basketball players who cannot make free throws. With enough practice, they would be at least average hitters.
 

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Steve Carlton could not only hit, he hit with power, to all fields! Takes hard work, and discipline. I think his lifetime b/a was around .250-.260?
 

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I feel that pitchers not being able to hit is like NBA basketball players who cannot make free throws. With enough practice, they would be at least average hitters.

With enough practice, they could be good guitar players too ... but what does that get them?
 

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Mike Hampton could hit.


-Who was it last year who batted their pitcher 8th?
 

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bigbet,

First, props to your donation.

Hitting a baseball is the hardest skill to achieve in any sport. The game is a game of failure. You succeed 3 times out of 10 and you are an all-star. Hitting is very very hard. You need to be extremely talented, like winning-the-lottery talented....you need to practice, and you need lots of experience. Baseball is a very competitive sport. It has minor leagues. Triple A, Double A, Single A, High A, Low A , short season, rookie ball, instructional league, independent leagues. Those are all leagues, not teams. The hitters in the major leagues are the best that the world has to offer. And then you compare a pitcher to the best hitters in the game, facing the best pitching in the game.

To answer your question:

#1 - Lack of Practice. They get paid to pitch, not swing the bat. Any effort devoted to hitting, is effort away from improving pitching.

#2 - Lack of Talent. It is SO HARD to break into the big leagues as it is as a hitter. There are outstanding hitters in the minor leagues that may never make it because they are in the redsox or yankees farm system, and those teams just sign big name guy after big name guy. Some just never get the chance because of politics. Most dont get the chance becase it is very difficult to make it as a hitter. Now imagine those hitters, and how good they are, are much better than these pitchers, that dont practice hitting, and werent as good to begin with.

with all that said......the real reason though....is

#3: at-bats. There is no substitute for experience. From high school to college most pitchers dont hit. The maximum number of at bats a pitcher may have before he breaks into the minors is 300.

in the minors he gets 50 starts and maybe picks up another 150 at-bats. Now the pitcher has got 450 significant lifetime at-bats under his belt, and he's not even that good of a hitter to begin with.

Over the course of just one 162 game season, a regular everyday hitter will pick up 400-600 at bats---which is more than most of these pitchers are getting their entire lives.
 

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Lots of pitchers were great hitters in highschool, maybe even college...you can just see the difference in talent in MLB pitching.
 

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guys like Bonds can't pitch, its different talents, Few do both really well ( Ruth).
 

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well Jason Schmidt just went yard

but they just don't practice enough to keep up with major league pitching
 

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The Dodgers could have the best hitting SP in the league.

Jason Schmidt - 7 career HR's (Just hit one a min ago)

or

Randy Wolf - 4-5 career HR's (Batted cleanup in college)


but for the time being Dontrelle wins for power.
 

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Mike Hampton once hit 7 HRs in one season. One of the better hitting pitchers with .242 BA, 15 HRs, 68 RBIs for his career.
 

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Hershiser could hit too. Marquis has been used to pinch hit in the past. Maddux and Glavine are also good hitters for pitchers.

Boxslayer, pitchers don't hit in the minors. Another reason they can't hit when they get to the majors.
 

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Hershiser could hit too. Marquis has been used to pinch hit in the past. Maddux and Glavine are also good hitters for pitchers.

Boxslayer, pitchers don't hit in the minors. Another reason they can't hit when they get to the majors.

I thought pitchers hit at every level, but the AL ?
 

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A guy I used to play ball with little leauge and up and he was the best hitter and best pitcher on our team and when he went to college to play ball he went as a pitcher and they would'nt even let him pick up a bat.
 

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I thought pitchers hit at every level, but the AL ?

My bad, here is the mlb website

6. Do pitchers hit in the Minor Leagues?
Pitchers only bat in Class AA and Triple-A. Here are the rules for these leagues...
International—Pitchers only hit when both clubs are NL affiliates
Pacific Coast-- Pitchers only hit when both clubs are NL affiliates and both clubs agree to have their pitchers hit
Eastern-- Pitchers only hit when both clubs are NL affiliates
Southern-- As long as there's just one NL affiliate, the pitchers bat
Texas-- Pitchers only hit when both clubs are NL affiliates

In short, they bat far less in the minors than in the majors and not enought to maintain/develop their skills.

Stocks, same here. When I played in college we only had 1 pitcher who we let hit and he didn't hit when he pitched. He would DH on off days. If they can hit they will often DH on off days. Darren Dreifort, Bobby Thigpen, Brooks Keishnick (sp?) and some other guys DH in college.
 

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Hershiser could hit too. Marquis has been used to pinch hit in the past. Maddux and Glavine are also good hitters for pitchers.

Boxslayer, pitchers don't hit in the minors. Another reason they can't hit when they get to the majors.

Pitchers hit in the minors as they get up to the higher levels. I think it begins in high A ball.

Edit: You already discussed this later in the thread.
 

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