Even if Barry Bonds took steroids he is still one of the best.

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and should still be considered one of the best IMHO..

Roids doesn't help with hand and eye coordination does it?

What are your thoughts?
 

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The guy is one of the best IMO...roids or not. He was better than the Big Mac, Sosa, and Bagwell, and others that played during the "Roids" era.
 

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Roids helps your body recover from the day-to-day grind and fatigue also. For a 35+ year-old to put up the numbers he did is pure BS and should not be considered one of the best.
 

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If Bonds never took steroids he still would of been one of,if not the best player in the league..

Also it's pretty obvious he wasn't the only one taking roids..

Look at his stats between 00-04 fucking amazing.. 60% OBP in 04..

Roids doesn't make you bat .370 does it?
 

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Want proof what steroids do for you? Just look at Sosa since he took a year off to clean up. That could have been Bonds instead.

When owners are paying Bonds $12+ million to take them, hard to see why he doesn't give them up.
 

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and should still be considered one of the best IMHO..

Roids doesn't help with hand and eye coordination does it?

What are your thoughts?

he is not the best. he is a fake ass cocky bastard. without roid he would have been an average outfielder...about 25 to 33 home runs a year. and about .290 batting avg.

put jeter or ichiro and roids and see what happens.....if vladimir guerrero took the roids he would hit 100 home runs.
 

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If Bonds never took steroids he still would of been one of,if not the best player in the league..

Also it's pretty obvious he wasn't the only one taking roids..

Look at his stats between 00-04 fucking amazing.. 60% OBP in 04..

Roids doesn't make you bat .370 does it?

He thought his skills were slipping. Thats why he took them. Gyno, lets not overthink this here.

Lets start a list of players who were thought to take them:

BONDS
Sosa
Palmiero
Bagwell
I Rodriguez

Feel free to add to it.
 

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he is not the best. he is a fake ass cocky bastard. without roid he would have been an average outfielder...about 25 to 33 home runs a year. and about .290 batting avg.

put jeter or ichiro and roids and see what happens.....if vladimir guerrero took the roids he would hit 100 home runs.


He was winning mvp's long before the steroid allegations, this argument holds no merit. Guy was a five tool player during his first 10 years, widely considered the best in baseball along with griffey jr.
 
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Bonds was great before he took steroids.

Rookie of the year 1986
MVP 1990,1992,1993 and of course the amazing 01 to 04 years..

Bonds was a superstar before steroids and roids turned him into a MEGA superstar..
 

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He would have been an all-star obviously since he was prior and a very good player but not great/immortal unless he juiced.
 

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Bonds was great before he took steroids.

Rookie of the year 1986
MVP 1990,1992,1993 and of course the amazing 01 to 04 years..

Bonds was a superstar before steroids and roids turned him into a MEGA superstar..


I love this argument because the players I mentioned all had multiple great years, THEN took them to stay on top. It costs other players by them having to cheat to be on top, not to mention the $ millions made by Bonds and them over the legit players.
 

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Bonds didn't Allegedly start using until 1999 the year after McGuire and Sosa had their big huge seasons. He was a first Ballot HOF before then 400 HR + 400 SB the only man ever to have that?!?!
 

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Bonds didn't Allegedly start using until 1999 the year after McGuire and Sosa had their big huge seasons. He was a first Ballot HOF before then 400 HR + 400 SB the only man ever to have that?!?!

Correct, so why did he do it? He won four MVPs since he started juicing. :ohno:
 

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