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Brewers @ Cubs
Play: Cubs -149
Intrinsic Value: -189
Consider Betting Price: -172
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Not only is Zambrano a much better pitcher than the one that has been on the mound so far this season, he has also been pitching better than his numbers indicate. He actually pitched decently against the Braves in his last start, and could have left the game allowing just one run. If an inning ending strike three was called in the first, Zambrano would not have allowed those four runs. He also dominated the Reds in the start prior until he mentally fell apart in that one inning. It is only a matter of time until he gets things back on track, and what better time to start tonight, as he is facing a team that he called out a couple of weeks ago. Zambrano’s best start so far this season has come against this Brewers lineup. He is a pitcher whose past results lack sustainability, as his performances are mainly dependent on whether he has his stuff that particular day. A good indicator of this would be the high standard deviation of performances off his career averages against this team. Although he has struggled in the past against a couple of the Brewers hitters, he has dominated their hottest one, Hall. The Brewers are a much less potent lineup away from home, and have a free swinging mentality, a potential deficiency primed to show up as they are eager to make Zambrano eat his words. He is also backed by a solid bullpen eager to redeem themselves after a horrific team performance in last nights game.

The Cubs lineup finally showed what they are capable of in yesterday’s game, as they got production and timely hitting across the lineup. Today they have a good chance of to continue that trend as they are up against an overachieving pitcher that is primed for a reality check, as he doesn’t fundamentally match up well against this Cubs lineup. Vargas is heavily dependent on his fastball, something not ideal against a Cubs lineup that is hard to overpower. The Cubs already roughed him up once in his relief appearance against them earlier this year. His lack of movement and location mistakes has made this fastball a prime home run pitch for opponents throughout his career, also a deficiency you don’t want in this game. The Cubs are also more than likely going to get Soriano back in the lineup, a premier fastball hitter. Vargas also lacks the ideal stamina to go deep into games. Although the Brewers bullpen has been pitching well of late, they have a few backend pitchers that have struggled against the Cubs in the past, and their closer has pitched four of the last five games.
 

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nice work agains yesterday. i got burned going against you with the padres yesterday. that may be the last time i go against you. still had a nice day yesterday hitting the red sox, missing on the over in the suns, but hitting the warriors and hitting the warriors moneyline with a nice +425 payoff. that game went exactly as i described yesterday to anyone willing to listen.

interested to see your values on angels, phillies , marlins, twins and wsox. also considering mets on the runline at even.

in the nba take the rockets once again to get the job done over the jazz. taking a look at the under again as well. more later.

finally, there a lot of people viewing this forum and i just want to say that you buffett are the best handicapper ive seen in 10yrs..any sport. like someone said before, you make every play seem like a no brainer for the most part. you dont spew out idiotic stats like most handicrappers do. thank you sir
 

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I like the Cubs today with Soriano back. Zambrano is too good to keep putting up performances like he has. I haven't had much luck with this team, but I keep seeing value in their lines. Am hoping it drops just a bit, but will likely be on them either way since I don't see the line getting much higher, if at all. BOL on your plays today.
 

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nice work agains yesterday. i got burned going against you with the padres yesterday. that may be the last time i go against you. still had a nice day yesterday hitting the red sox, missing on the over in the suns, but hitting the warriors and hitting the warriors moneyline with a nice +425 payoff. that game went exactly as i described yesterday to anyone willing to listen.

interested to see your values on angels, phillies , marlins, twins and wsox. also considering mets on the runline at even.

in the nba take the rockets once again to get the job done over the jazz. taking a look at the under again as well. more later.

finally, there a lot of people viewing this forum and i just want to say that you buffett are the best handicapper ive seen in 10yrs..any sport. like someone said before, you make every play seem like a no brainer for the most part. you dont spew out idiotic stats like most handicrappers do. thank you sir

Thanks finman, and congrats on that Warriors call. Crazy game.

The lines today seem to be efficiently price.
I valued the Angels at -133

I didnt value the Phillies, as I want to see Sampson pitch a couple more times.

The Marlins I valued at -140

Twins at -106

White Sox at -123

I didnt value the Mets because of Buckholtz, but I don't reccommend Run lines.

Good luck today.
 

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buffett, i see several people picking the bjays and/or the drays today based on a yankee/redsox series letdown. any stock in that to you? do you feel these games are sufficiently valued? i would assume you want to see igawa more anyway to even value this game
 

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i see the oddsmakers still havent learned when it comes to the matchup between the warriors and mavs. line 9.5 right now with total at 210. how many times in a row do they have to beat this team for oddmakers to catch on? i wouldnt expect the warriors to win this game, but they might. might take 5 to1 odds on them though. the matchups are the same and this team will give the mavs fits. over the last 20 games or so gs has averaged about 117 a game. baron davis is healthy and lean. the guys they traded for are now fitting in. i expect a higher scoring game. once warriors settled down a bit, they exploded in the second half. this team has nothing to lose. take em now.
 

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last question regarding baseball today buffett. i like danny haren, but i think orioles bats will be able to push across enough runs today to win. bedards era isnt very good right now, but i think this is an opportunity to get well. i have -125. what do you think?
 

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buffett, i see several people picking the bjays and/or the drays today based on a yankee/redsox series letdown. any stock in that to you? do you feel these games are sufficiently valued? i would assume you want to see igawa more anyway to even value this game

As far as fading teams primarily due to a potential letdown spot, I do not encourage it. I see people blindly betting against the Red Sox or Yankees the day after they played each other, and it is a "rookie mistake". Everything has a price, even intangibles such as letdown spots (although intangibles are harder to quantify). How much value does the potential "letdown"spot add to the Blue Jays? They can still be overvalued regardless of the letdown spot.

Having said that, the Blue Jays are coming with value today. I valued them at +154, and am still considering betting on them. Letdown spots are overrated in baseball, but can occur. The Red Sox are bit prone to a letdown in this game, but its rare to see them provide such at home and having some momentum heading into this game. What people are not mentioning because they are fixated on the letdown, is how they might be tired and not coming into this game with a full arsenal of players. Papelbon has pitched four of the last five games, and will likely have the day off today. The same could be said for Okijima, who has pitched three straight days. Their hottest hitter Varitek will have the day off today, as he doesnt catch for Wakefield. These are intstrumental parts of the Red Sox team.

I also don't like forcing bets when their is a knuckleball pitcher on the mound. His performance is heavily correlated to whether the knuckleball is working that given day. It has had a lot of bite the last three starts, but who knows how much longer it can last.


I was hoping to get some value on the Orioles today, but it appears the public has caught on. I value them at -127, so it looks like a no play. Anyone could put forth a solid performance against this A's lineup, so I would actually rather have a less effective pitcher on the mound against them. The O's bullpen is the reason why they are where they are right now, and they have the talent to keep this up.
 

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excellent. i see the bjays have moved up to +168 on my site. interesting, i just checked caribsports.com has 90.66% of bettors on the a's. im stunned by that, especially when the line hasnt moved in the a's favor. thanks!
 

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Finman,

Just to give you my $.02, I don't like the post-Sox/Yanks series angle myself, especially for the Yanks. How could this be a letdown spot for them? I see it as the opposite personally. They don't want to lose yet another game in a row, and regardless of opinion on Tampa, they're still a divisional opponent. And they're one the Yanks have done very well against in recent past (6-3 last year at Tropicana). Also, after last year's early season matchup between the Sox and Yanks at Fenway (only ended up playing 1 of 2 due to rain - Yankees won the lone game), the Yanks went to Tampa and swept a 2 game set on their way to 5 straight wins. After the series the following week in NY, the Yankees came out with 2 straight wins over Oakland.

I think a better case can be made for going against Boston today, and I just noticed BG responded with that argument. The other side of it is that it's a tough spot to go against Wakefield here considering how good he's looked so far. Wake is by far one of the streakiest pitchers I've ever seen. His career is full of winning and losing streaks. And when he gets on a streak, I try not to go against it until it's over. Right now he's got a streak of 3 straight only giving up 1 ER. I just don't think this Bluejays offense, with their key injuries, has what it takes to really challenge him.
 

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i totally agree with you jibba. i actually found it quite funny that so many people were blindly betting against sox and yanks for this lone reason.

not only is wakefield hot, but ohka is a guy i really dont like betting on.

im really hoping that the marlins line goes down. i like willis in a bounce back performance. beat the braves earlier and i was on him. some braves do have good success against him. on the other hand in limited time the marlins have pounded davies. r u posting picks today jibba?
 

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finman, i dont want to clutter buffetts thread too much, but thanks for an excellent call on the warriors last night, i will ride them again with you. thanks again bg,jibba, and osu. what a great thread!
 

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thanks tendog. just to let buffett and the other regulars know, i dont want to clutter this board either. im good at nba playoffs and if i see something i really like, id like to let the brethren know in a concise manner. i greatly appreciate the info provided here and just wanted to help in case anyone was interested. hopefully no offense taken by anyone. hope you took a small shot on the moneyline last night tendog:+)
 

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I'm right with you Fin. Pretty sure I won't play the Sox game tonight. I do feel like they should win and most of the info I've seen points to that, but the line hasn't fallen to a number I'm comfortable with (was in the -190s this morning and is currently at -183 on MB).

I posted plays this morning (Balt -118, Yanks -152, LAA -137, Philly -115, and Cleveland +114) and am leaning toward posting 2, possibly 3 more in the near future. Completely agree with you on Florida and that will likely be one of my plays. Too many people are too high on Atlanta. They're playing well, but I see this as a good spot for them to start coming back to earth. Willis has had some success against them lately and I think many people forget how awful Davies was last year (8.38 ERA overall, 7.49 on the road). In his one start in Dolphins Stadium he went 4 innings, giving up 8 hits and 4 ERs. I see no reason why that's going to change against a very hot Marlins lineup. Plus, like you said Willis has already beaten Atlanta once. I was hoping that with all these people on the Braves, the line would start to drop but it's still sitting at about -132.

The other game that I'm almost sure of at this point is the Mariners. Thought this might be a game BG would be on, but so far he's only got the 1 play. I like getting +130 or so with a guy who has looked great in 3 career starts against the Rangers. Mariners are not as bad as they've looked during their current losing streak, and I think running into the Angels at the wrong time really hurt their image in the public's eyes. Rangers will be without Gagne and I just think they're getting too much respect here.

Don't want to clutter BG's thread, even though I know he doesn't mind discussion in his threads. But have you made any of the plays you listed here yet?

Oh, and although I was without the internet for most of yesterday and didn't see the play, congrats on the Warriors play last night.
 

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what do you see in the indians tonight that you like? i see no angle as of yet on that game
 

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n the nba, take the rockets to get it done -5 (buy the hook if u need to) the jazz have stumbled down the stretch. they simply dont matchup with the rockets. they have absolutely no answer for yao ming who will have his way once again tonight. tracey mcgrady was useless the first half the other night, yet the jazz simply couldnt take advantage.tmac is a on a mission this year and wants to prove is critics wrong. houston will shoot much better tonight and win this one going away.

im also going to take the under tonight as well. houston plays solid defense at home. because of mings height and mutombos shot blocking ability, if they use him, the jazz struggle to get easy shots inside the paint. couple this with the fact that utahs guards arent great shooters, i dont think utah will score more than 85, if that.

gl buffett and others tonight on the baseball. see ya in the am
 

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