Why Trent Edwards may be the best QB in the draft...

JakeT. · Apr 25, 2007

He never had the offensive line that Russell, Quinn, Smith, or even Stanton or Kolb had. He was constantly being pressured and almost never had time to throw.

He has NFL size which only 4 or 5 QBs in the draft have.

But the #1 reason why he should do well is this...

He almost never threw INTs. Even though he was constantly rushed and on his back, almost everyone of his throws was either to his WR or out of the reach of the CB.

You have to believe that with a better offensive line and more time to throw, a guy that knows how to stay away from mistakes will be a premium in the NFL.

His stats may not be as impressive because he had no time, but I'll take a guy like that in the 2nd or 3rd round over a higher-priced top 5 pick in a second if I were an NFL GM. He can make the throws and is going to be a major steal is he gets some starts behind a decent O line.

TescoVee · Apr 25, 2007

i wouldnt be surprised to see John Beck from BYU go higher in the draft

sd2 · Apr 25, 2007

Tesco Vee said:
i wouldnt be surprised to see John Beck from BYU go higher in the draft

Beck got a lot of upside. Won't start right away, maybe not for a year. Bu should be good when he does. And at 25 years old and married with children (was on a Mormon mission for 2 years) there will be no "maturity" isssues.

JakeT. · Apr 25, 2007

Tesco Vee said:
i wouldnt be surprised to see John Beck from BYU go higher in the draft

Beck's a decent QB as well but he's another guy that had a good line. It's just pretty rare for a team to have a horrible line and the QB make such good calls with the ball to avoid turnovers. Beck, and maybe even Kolb could go higher but I think some NFL scout is going to realize what I pointed out. I say Edwards goes early 2nd.

CollegeFan · Apr 25, 2007

And what's this tell you about Walt Harris? One of the worst head coaches to EVER roam the sideline.

prodigy · Apr 25, 2007

i really think he can be a sleeper in the draft. imo, he's neck and neck with stanton for 3rd best qb in the draft. i dont think kolb or beck are nfl caliber quarterbacks but thats my opinion.

edwards has the potential to be very solid.
its totally unfair to judge him on his collegiate numbers. people forget that not only was his line horrible but he also lost his best receiver for a good chunk of the last two seasons.

i think quinn is going to be a star.
i think russell will be a good pro.
and i think one of the two between stantan and edwards will turn out to be a steal. other than that, i think this qb class is weak.

prodigy · Apr 25, 2007

i dont think beck has any chance to make it in the league. hes drew bledsoe without the rocket arm. way too immobile to survive the nfl in the year 2007. game has changed and you have to have some mobility to succeed.

JakeT. · Apr 25, 2007

prodigy said:
i dont think beck has any chance to make it in the league. hes drew bledsoe without the rocket arm. way too immobile to survive the nfl in the year 2007. game has changed and you have to have some mobility to succeed.

Peyton Manning will arm wrestle you for saying that.

hm2.0 · Apr 26, 2007

Edwards has the size and arm for the NFL. But at some point you have to produce to be considered worth the risk due to unrealized potential at QB. A raw talent at WR or DE can be considered, but at QB? He's a boom or bust guy...not worth drafting on the first day.

Beck may not have the prototypical size or arm for the NFL but he may well end up being the best QB of this draft. He has the intangibles and he's very accurate. I think the fallacy is to dismiss him as a system QB, something one would not say if they'd seen him on several occasions.

WCBias · Apr 26, 2007

Phillip Rivers has NO arm and he did alright his first year.

fhmesq44 · Apr 26, 2007

WC Bias said:
Phillip Rivers has NO arm and he did alright his first year.

Actually Rivers has a good arm but a bizarre throwing motion. Brees is the one with a noodle for an arm.

JakeT. · Apr 26, 2007

Rivers has a decent enough arm. He's also behind possibly the best offensive line in the game.

fhmesq44 · Apr 26, 2007

He almost never threw INTs.

Jake,

He played the majority of 31 games in college and threw 26 picks against only 33 TDs. I realize his OL may not have been good, but a 33/26 TD/INT ratio and 56% completion percentage is not good at all.

JakeT. · Apr 26, 2007

fhmesq44 said:
He almost never threw INTs.

Jake,

He played the majority of 31 games in college and threw 26 picks against only 33 TDs. I realize his OL may not have been good, but a 33/26 TD/INT ratio and 56% completion percentage is not good at all.

If you watched him, he never had any time at all. He threw 20 of those INTs as a freshman and sophmore. His last two years with equally horrid lines, and I do mean horrid, he threw for 23 TDs with 13 INTs. If you watched them last year, it was probably the worst of his four years there and he only threw 6 INTs. Granted, his TD numbers weren't great but I think Russell or Quinn behind a line that bad would put up slightly more TDs but slightly more INTs and finish with about the same ratio.

WCBias · Apr 26, 2007

Rivers arm looked dead by the end of the season. His passes wobble their way downfield and his accuracy beyond 25 yards diminishes quickly. He is very accurate with the short stuff.

fhmesq44 · Apr 26, 2007

My bad, 36 TDs and 33 INts, an even worse ratio. That still leaves 13 picks in only 16 games over his last 2 years. From what I have seen, he doesn't have it, line or no line. He barely kept TC Ostrander on the bench before breaking his leg. There are a lot of big immobile guys with big inaccurate arms.

One of his WRs interns here, I emailed him to get his thoughts. He also played in HS with Tommy Grady (went to Oklahoma then transferred to Utah when Jason White came back for his 6th year). I would be interested to see who he thinks is better of the two.

fhmesq44 · Apr 26, 2007

FWIW, here is what he said in response to the question "Is Trent Edwards any good?"

ya he is, it'll be interesting to see where he goes. the fact that he never had an o-line and wasn't ever able to settle into a system hurt him alot, plus the fact that our top 3 receivers were all out last year. he's got alotta physical ability, super strong arm. i hope he does well where he goes, but it's hard to tell with qb's they're very hard to project.

When asked if he is better than Grady and about his accuracy and decision making:

it's hard for me to say, because i only saw grady in high school. his arm strength and accuracy are good. as far as decision making, i'm sure i'm biased, but i think he was overcoached, at least when walt was there. i was on defense almost the whole time buddy was there so i can't really speak on that, but i don't think walt gave him enough freedom. but to be fair he made his share of mistakes also.

TescoVee · Apr 28, 2007

ope:

Tesco Vee said:
i wouldnt be surprised to see John Beck from BYU go higher in the draft

Ironman_8 · Apr 28, 2007

Bills get Edwards in 3rd round.

AlwaysKeen · Apr 28, 2007

good for him...

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