Where can one get a license/ID and bank account?

sean1 · Apr 28, 2007

In what non US, non Canadian countries can one get a resident ID or drivers license and bank account relatively easily (even at a fee?)

Any of the internationals out there know the answer to this?

I've found plenty of places to get bank accounts, but ID seems more tricky.

Any idea what neteller verifies on IDs? I can't imagine they have a credit report type database for every ID from every country in the world.

I have had enough of the United States legistlating morality and seizing bank accounts.
Sean

Doug · Apr 28, 2007

good question,Sean !

The US has definetly jumped the shark.

Illini · Apr 28, 2007

You bonus whores are just pissed because the US has made it harder for you to steal.

Matt · Apr 28, 2007

What is your opinion on things in Canada Sean?

Just wondering if people here should be concerned of the government following suit of US? Share some thoughts if you have some time or shoot me an email.

Hobbes · Apr 28, 2007

I arrived in Australia a few days ago, got a bank account the same day, and have an appointment to get my drivers license Tuesday.

Extraordinary_5 · Apr 28, 2007

do u have to reside there or apply for a green card in australia or you just visit there?

gbogo · Apr 28, 2007

australia

you can get a drivers licence or identity card to prove your 18 to drink

but im not sure whether that is accepted by others as acceptable proof in australia it would be

you just need an address in australia for either one, the licence though you have to test.

new zealand would be another as their laws are the same as australia

what about the bahamas ? or BVI those would be alot closer and cheaper to get with a mailboxes and id bank account there.

wolfie_cr · Apr 28, 2007

Costa Rica (for the drivers license part) to open an account you will absolutely need to do better than that (residence id or passport) besides many banks are freaked out about money laundering and give aliens (and locals too!) a hard time when opening an account (what do you do.....where is your pay stub.....how long have you lived at this address.....etc)

of course you can open offshore bank accounts.......aplying by mail........in a bunch of juridistictions........like isle of man, jersey, guernsey, gibraltar etc, this is TOTALLY doable from the comfort of your home, do not bother to check any of the places that offer you bank accounts for ridiculous fees.....simply contact the bank directly and do it yourself.....its free

sean1 · Apr 28, 2007

My thoughts on Canada are:

It is safe. I have most my cash in Canada.

My feeling is the 50 people arrested in AZ - probably 80% were bettors. And 120 bank accounts were frozen. There is no chance I am keeping any amount of money beyond enough to pay 2 months of bills in the US. I've never booked a bet in my life, but I've moved a lot of money over the years and am not gonna get the seize.... Nothing surprises me these days.

I love the Canadian banks - you can wire from them and you can receive wires back in, but so far, you have to go there to do so. I guess I can go to Canada every few months... but that part is a pain. If I could find a Canadian bank that wires by fax, that would be ideal, but so far no luck.

I'm working on a panamanian residence ID. Supposedly I'm gonna give some medical lectures in exchange for one, but even then, neteller only uses checks or wires to Panama I believe.

I believe Neteller does EFts to Australia and NZ. Anyone confirm this? They want a passport for Australia, but they'll take a license or ID certificate for New Zealand... Anyone know if you can get a license in New ZEaland? I could do some summer skiing!

-Sean

sean1 · Apr 28, 2007

Biggest question is where all does NEteller do EFTs?

I know they did US, Canada, and Australia. Do they eft elsewhere?

Sean

wolfie_cr · Apr 28, 2007

withdrawal options for a panamanian account = probably only by check (I am going by CR which only has that option to withdraw)

pretty sure they have EFT (ACH...whatever accronym they use) for several countries in Europe like UK or Germany but an European poster should confirm, Santo?

if you want to avoid surprises stay away from neteller...........

Sean, I thought you said you were giving up on betting altogether?

doda · Apr 28, 2007

wolfie_cr said:
Costa Rica (for the drivers license part) to open an account you will absolutely need to do better than that (residence id or passport) besides many banks are freaked out about money laundering and give aliens (and locals too!) a hard time when opening an account (what do you do.....where is your pay stub.....how long have you lived at this address.....etc)

of course you can open offshore bank accounts.......aplying by mail........in a bunch of juridistictions........like isle of man, jersey, guernsey, gibraltar etc, this is TOTALLY doable from the comfort of your home, do not bother to check any of the places that offer you bank accounts for ridiculous fees.....simply contact the bank directly and do it yourself.....its free

can you give some suggestions about which ones to open in these juridistictions?

Santo · Apr 28, 2007

They do bank transfers in the UK, sure. ACH is one system. If by EFT he means instant, then no, unless it's the same bank. Domestic bank wires take 3-5 days. It took me 3 days to send funds to Moneybookers for example.

Cyprus is much the same, except their online banking is less developed so you have to do more by phone (and know enough Greek to explain what you want, so they can get somebody who can understand what you want to do in English). Can't comment on the rest of Europe.

wolfie_cr · Apr 28, 2007

doda said:
can you give some suggestions about which ones to open in these juridistictions?

http://www.rbsint.com/ (RBS is an extremely SOLID bank, however their level of burocracy is terrible, by that I mean that everything takes FOREVER..like opening an account, besides they have stated they have absolutely nothing to do with egaming so perhaps not the best choice)

http://www.lloydstsb-offshore.com/ (I have many good things to say about these guys)

http://www.barclays.com/internationalpersonal/ib_banking_offshore.htm (Barclays in Gibraltar is another good choice)

erwinmark · Apr 28, 2007

Check your Miami phone book, you could try place in there. I am trying this but don't want to disclose completly on web for fear of getting jammed up.

erwinmark · Apr 30, 2007

Sean,

Did you find IDL in Miami?

sean1 · Apr 30, 2007

Have not looked at IDL yet.

Wolf, I gave up betting back in December. I feel the books have stabilized a good deal. I will do things differently (Rather than let balances ride up in certain books, I will keep 1-2% in each book and be more vigilent about it, but since the neteller fall out, I would really have only gotten screwed by Cascade (ANd I like to think I would have been near the front to get out) Sportsbook seems to be paying as does Mania. I would not have funds in Betus, BOS, or any of the others who have stiffed.

I believe more caution is needed now than a year ago, but feel far more comfortable than 3 months ago.

My contention remains that if a bookie does not come to the US, he is ok.
Sean

Woody0 · Apr 30, 2007

sean1 said:
I love the Canadian banks - you can wire from them and you can receive wires back in, but so far, you have to go there to do so. I guess I can go to Canada every few months... but that part is a pain. If I could find a Canadian bank that wires by fax, that would be ideal, but so far no luck.

It surprises me that you can't do online wires from Canadian banks but I've never looked into it. I can wire online from my UK bank.

If you need to wire from a Can $ account to a US $ account you might look into xetrade.

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