Kentucky Derby analysis from Judge Wapner in Bookie Chit Chat Forum FYI...

dimeplayersonly · May 2, 2007

that time of year again my friend.....looking forward to your breakdown of the race.....gl

by the way... for the posters who arent familiar with judges breakdown of the race.....nobody does a better job period......

JudgeWapner · May 2, 2007

Dime, just printed out the past performances. A little behind schedule this year, but will certainly be giving my opinion. Hope everything is good in your part of the world my friend.

dimeplayersonly · May 2, 2007

same ole same ole.....look forward to reading it...

ATTENTION MODS......please "pin" this thread when judge gives his breakdown....thanks in advance

oldmanTED · May 2, 2007

Post positions currently being selected on ESPN2 as we speak.

arniesarmy · May 2, 2007

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Trainers (by post position): 1, Darrin Miller. 2, Steve Asmussen. 3, Steven Asmussen. 4, Bill Kaplan. 5, Bill Kaplan. 6, Todd Pletcher. 7, Carl Nafzger. 8, Larry Jones. 9, Doug O’Neill. 10, Jamie Sanders. 11, Jerry Hollendorfer. 12, Barclay Tagg. 13, Todd Pletcher. 14, Todd Pletcher. 15, John Shirreffs. 16, Todd Pletcher. 17, William Currin. 18, Todd Pletcher. 19, Darrin Miller. 20, Doug O’Neill.<o

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1, Silverton Hill. 2, Jess Jackson, Padua Stable, George Bolton & Midnight Cry Stable. 3, Winchell Thoroughbreds LLC. 4, Teresa & David Palmer. 5, Lewis Pell & Michael Eigner. 6, WinStar Farm. 7, James B. Tafel LLC. 8, Fox Hill Farms Inc. 9, J. Paul Reddam. 10, Gary Logsdon, Donnie Kelly & Jamie Sanders. 11, Mark DeDomenico, Mark Jelladian, & Dan and Jerry Todaro. 12, Elizabeth Valando. 13, Starlight Stable & Donald Lucarelli. 14, James Scatuorchio & Michael Tabor. 15, Mr. & Mrs. Jerome S. Moss. 16, Michael & Doreen Tabor. 17, Bill Currin. 18, WinStar Farm, Maverick Racing & Padua Stable. 19, Silverton Hill Farm. 20, J. Paul Reddam.<o

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Weights: 126 pounds. Distance: 1<SUP>1</SUP>/<SUB>4</SUB> miles. Purse: $2,210,000 if 20 start. First place: $1,450,000. Second place: $400,000. Third place: $200,000. Fourth place: $100,000. Fifth place: $60,000. Post time: 6:04 p.m. EDT.<o

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wilheim · May 2, 2007

Dime, once Judge posts his opinion I will move this over to the main forum and make it sticky on race day. We try to keep sticky threads to a minimum in the Offshore Forum but will definitely make an exception for Judge Wapner.

Thanks, wil

Masxmenos · May 3, 2007

Judge Wapner said:
Dime, just printed out the past performances.

Where is my thank you

Like Dime.. I look forward to your annual "mock race" annoucement. I enjoyed that last year.

dimeplayersonly · May 3, 2007

thanks wil

JudgeWapner · May 3, 2007

Should do the bulk of my charting today and tonight.

JudgeWapner · May 4, 2007

Alright, lets start with a look at our runners.

JudgeWapner · May 4, 2007

1. Sedgefield- A horse who seems more suited to the turf. Workouts at CD have been decent. Has been running since last October without a break. Not sure if he will like added distance. Speed figs are so-so. Pass.

JudgeWapner · May 4, 2007

2. Curlin- Has only run 3 races. All had impressive speed figs. Very talented horse. One workout at CD. Could very well be the fastest horse of the bunch. However unraced at 2 and only 3 races lifetime. Green horses don't win the Derby. That coupled with him being the ML fav, I'll look elswhere. This horse looks like a Preakness winner to me.

JudgeWapner · May 4, 2007

3. Zanjero- looks like a plodder to me. Been beaten by several others in this race. Not much to like about him.

JudgeWapner · May 4, 2007

4. Storm in May-Has been running since last July with no break. Heavily raced. Not what you want in a Derby pick. Slow speed figs.Only plus is a versatile running style. Pass.

JudgeWapner · May 4, 2007

5. Imawildandcrazyguy-Another plodder. Just doesn't look fast enough for these. Also a little too heavily raced at 2. Pass.

JudgeWapner · May 4, 2007

6. Cowtown Cat- Interesting horse. Won Ill Derby, but in a slow 1:51.1. Speed figures are on the improve. Will need to make another jump forward to compete with best here.

JudgeWapner · May 4, 2007

7. Street Sense- What's not to like? Has bets speed fig of the field. Has won at CD. I love Nafzger, doesn't run a horse unless he thinks it has a shot. Comes into race with 2 preps which I like. Came up just short in Blue Grass. Was BC Juvenile champ, which has never won Derby. Theory being that you don't want a horse too run too fast at 2. Maybe this is the year. Ran a monster work at CD, and I hear he looks great.

JudgeWapner · May 4, 2007

8. Hard Spun- Nice improving speed figs. If he improves off of last, it should put him in the mix. Hasn't really run against much talent yet. Has some nice works at CD. I'm not crazy about the conections here. Pino is a good Jock, but not in the top flight.

JudgeWapner · May 4, 2007

9. Liquidity- Not sure this one will like the added distance. Breeding is a question. Nakatani chose Great Hunter over this one. Should be near the lead early. Pass.

ILMW · May 4, 2007

Judge when you are finished doing each horse would you be able to possibly tell us possible the top 3 that are good running on a wet track in case it is a mess.