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Being a hometown Pistons fan you grow up hating the Bulls but the Bulls are not getting any respect today.

Every Tom ,Dick and Harry is on the Pistons today.

Who is with me on this? I took +3.5.
 

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As a Bulls fan, this is a horrible matchup for them. Too reliant on outside shooting, no one to stop Billips, and Ben Wallace's attitude will be too much for them to overcome today.
 

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It didn't seem like a horrible matchup when they led by 19 points. They just thought they could coast when they got that lead and then were shell schocked when it got close. I doubt they will snooze their way through if they build the lead again.

Value is certainly on Bulls +3.5. I see this as a stone cold pickem.
 

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one of the best angles in all of sports betting is to bet against a team down 0-3. all the value in the world goes out the window because the team down 0-3 has zero confidence and often mails it in. overs are a traditionally good play in this kind of spot too because the defensive intensity is often lacking. the # of times a 3-0 lead turns into a sweep is staggering.
 

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i should add that i love to play unders. especially in this series. but im very leery of playing unders when a series is at 3-0 because the intensity (and crowd) is completely different from past matchups.
 

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one of the best angles in all of sports betting is to bet against a team down 0-3. all the value in the world goes out the window because the team down 0-3 has zero confidence and often mails it in. overs are a traditionally good play in this kind of spot too because the defensive intensity is often lacking. the # of times a 3-0 lead turns into a sweep is staggering.

And that idea of an angle is exactly why the line has been SIX POINTS from the previous game. The angle is overplayed a bit here.
 

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And that idea of an angle is exactly why the line has been SIX POINTS from the previous game. The angle is overplayed a bit here.

... or it could simply be telling you that the bulls are done and about to quit. whatever your perspective, the line is what it is for a reason. teams far better than chicago have mailed in game 4s before in similar spots.

sure youre getting 'value' with chicago. but at the end of the day, if chicago quits on you and tanks the way so many teams down 0-3 do, then what good was the value?
 

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It didn't seem like a horrible matchup when they led by 19 points. They just thought they could coast when they got that lead and then were shell schocked when it got close. I doubt they will snooze their way through if they build the lead again.

Value is certainly on Bulls +3.5. I see this as a stone cold pickem.

I had little confidence in them when they were up 19. Started taking bad shots as Detroit D wore them down. Bulls might be worth a shot for 1st qtr, but as Prodigy said, teams down 0-3 almost wait for something bad to happen and then crumble.
 

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Chicago moneyline seems like a good value here. I figure if Detroit wins this game, they'll probably cover the spread. So, I'm taking Chicago moneyline.
 

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I had little confidence in them when they were up 19. Started taking bad shots as Detroit D wore them down. Bulls might be worth a shot for 1st qtr, but as Prodigy said, teams down 0-3 almost wait for something bad to happen and then crumble.

the last part fair warning said is dead on (about waiting for something bad to happen)

look at the way miami and orlando crumbled in the first round despite playing ok for the 1st quarter or 1st half of game 4. once they faced any sort of run from their opponent, they showed no heart and just laid down. sometimes that run comes in the 1st qtr and it becomes a blowout. other times, the team down 0-3 plays great for half the game before going limp when something bad happens. again, theres no doubt there is value on the bulls. but anyone betting chicago is backing (today at least) a very mentally fragile team that could implode at any time. can they win the game? of course they can. but theyll be playing on eggshells all game and any detroit mini-run could knock them out and rip their confidence away.
 

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Being a hometown Pistons fan you grow up hating the Bulls but the Bulls are not getting any respect today.

Every Tom ,Dick and Harry is on the Pistons today.

Who is with me on this? I took +3.5.


Surprised you would think this is a good value of all people. I assume you have watched the games and see how they match up? I would play the moneyline if I was going to play the bulls. They likely either fold or win.
 

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Surprised you would think this is a good value of all people. I assume you have watched the games and see how they match up? I would play the moneyline if I was going to play the bulls. They likely either fold or win.

I dont look at matchups and stuff like that. That is not how I handicap.

The line has been established and there was a huge overreaction/correction based on 1 game (a game where the Bulls led by nearly 20). The value was in the fact THEY should have been favored like they were in game 3. My best sport is the NFL from a capping prespective and the way I go about that is too find when I feel the public overreacts to the last game a team played.

This was supposed to be a close series and there is no way the Pistons should have ever been favored in Chicago.
 

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I like the ML...Parlayed Bulls ML w/ GS ML for better than 2/1...

Ice (or anyone) -- would you now buy back any Utah +7, or Utah ML?

I currently have $150 to win $305, only needing the back end of that parlay (GS ML).

Any value in taking $100 or so on Utah +7 (to try for the middle, a 1-7 point GS win), or Utah +280?

Just curious what you would do, if anything. I think I will just let it ride, but was curious to other thoughts.
 

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Ice (or anyone) -- would you now buy back any Utah +7, or Utah ML?

I currently have $150 to win $305, only needing the back end of that parlay (GS ML).

Any value in taking $100 or so on Utah +7 (to try for the middle, a 1-7 point GS win), or Utah +280?

Just curious what you would do, if anything. I think I will just let it ride, but was curious to other thoughts.

Up to you but if you take Utah +7 you can win both bets. But GS looks like the right side ML. also pay attention at the halftime and maybe adjust from there too.
 

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