How Did Willie Hernandez Win the MVP in 1984?

Highdaddy · May 24, 2007

i live outside Detroit and remember the Tigers dominating that season but I was still too young to really comprehend and keep up with the whole league.

His stats were not great but they were very efficient. The AL must have really sucked that year

Willie: 9-3, 1.92, 32 saves in 33 chances, 80 games, 112 strikeouts in 140 innings

those numbers would not even get a chance for a MVP today, and most relievers don't have a chance for the MVP

Journeyman · May 24, 2007

The closer role was a little different back then....

Hernandez pitched a TON that year....he didn't just come in to start the 9th, and as i recall he was damn good and almost perfect, he saved just about everything ....plus he won 9 games, look at his innings pitched , 140 innings for your closer is not going to happen again...he pitched in every other game for 2 innings on avg , think about it.

plus in 1984 the Tigers just dominated from start to finish, they didn't have ONE real standout player on offense , just a lot of good hitting from top to bottom....Hernandez was a huge part of that season, it seemed like he pitched every game.

Highdaddy · May 24, 2007

but you would think someone would bat over .330 and have a bunch of homers and RBI and get the MVP

has another closer/reliever won the MVP ever?

Journeyman · May 24, 2007

MVP vote in 1984

Rk Name Team Place Points Points Share| AB H HR BA OPS SB| W-L IP ERA WHIP SO SV
+--+----------------+----+-----+------+------+-----+-----+---+--+-----+-----+---+------+---+-----+-----+---+--+
1 Willie Hernandez DET 16 306 392 0.78 | | 9-3 140 1.92 0.94 112 32
2 Kent Hrbek MIN 5 247 392 0.63 | 559 174 27 .311 .905 1|
3 Dan Quisenberry KCR 5 235 392 0.60 | | 6-3 129 2.64 1.03 41 44
4 Eddie Murray BAL 2 197 392 0.50 | 588 180 29 .306 .919 10|
5 Don Mattingly NYY 0 113 392 0.29 | 603 207 23 .343 .918 1|

Journeyman · May 24, 2007

Highdaddy said:
but you would think someone would bat over .330 and have a bunch of homers and RBI and get the MVP

has another closer/reliever won the MVP ever?

Dennis Eckersley in 1992 won Cy Young and MVP

Highdaddy · May 24, 2007

wow, hard to believe Hrbek and Quisenberry were that close to ever winning the MVP

Journeyman · May 24, 2007

Hrbek was great when he broke in...that spring training he was homering like a wild man, and carried it right into the season, between him and Gaetti they had two thumpers for the time...the Quiz was lights out and like Hernandez was one of those rubber armed closers who could log a lot of innings , he died of brain cancer about ten yrs ago.

Highdaddy · May 24, 2007

oh i remember watching all of them play, was just surprised they were ever that close to an MVP.

Twins had another thumper back then Tom Brunansky

Journeyman · May 24, 2007

Twins all grew up at once...they really were a tough team to beat in that damn park.

Did you go to Tigers Stadium much? I miss that old park.

CHOPTALK · May 24, 2007

Willie was a total stud that season.

If anyone could do what he did then now on a year to year basis. He would make 20 mil per season.

Just think about having a guy that pitches 80 games a year with a sub 2 ERA and converts over 96% of there saves.

Sugarbear · May 24, 2007

If only the Cubs would have resigned him. Let him walk dead to the Tigers in his prime. Also gave up Craig Lefferts whom cam back to haunt the Cubs, BIG.

Highdaddy · May 24, 2007

Journeyman said:
Twins all grew up at once...they really were a tough team to beat in that damn park.

Did you go to Tigers Stadium much? I miss that old park.

i didn't go there a lot, but i liked it more than Comerica Park

and my first tiger game was against your Orioles around 1983 i believe Baltimore won 7-2 or something close to that

JohnnyMac · May 24, 2007

Pre-steroid era.

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