This is way unoffical, not even worth a thread. If they do sign him I'll eat my words and suck your ass.
Colorado - not the Yankees, most definitly initiated this conversation (if there is one). Helton is off to a fast start, they see the Yankees are struggling and are looking to unload him anyways. I don't see much the Yankees would be willing to give them, certainly not any of their young pitching. Most they would offer would be something like Boston but eating more of his contract.
IMO, won't happen.
Colorado - not the Yankees, most definitly initiated this conversation (if there is one). Helton is off to a fast start, they see the Yankees are struggling and are looking to unload him anyways. I don't see much the Yankees would be willing to give them, certainly not any of their young pitching. Most they would offer would be something like Boston but eating more of his contract.
IMO, won't happen.
Report: Yanks interested in Helton
Todd Helton - 1B - COL - May. 24 - 12:18 pm et
No talks are ongoing, but the Yankees are said to be interested in Todd Helton and Brian Fuentes.
Helton, who has full no-trade protection, indicated during the Red Sox talks that he would not accept an in-season deal. It's possible that's changed because the Rockies are struggling again, but he hasn't come out and suggested anything of the sort. Adding Fuentes to a Helton trade would be interesting, as it'd likely allow the Rockies to dump more of Helton's salary than they otherwise could hope for. Helton will be owed $73.5 million from 2008 through 2011. May. 24 - 12:18 pm et
Source: Denver Post
Todd Helton - 1B - COL - May. 24 - 12:18 pm et
No talks are ongoing, but the Yankees are said to be interested in Todd Helton and Brian Fuentes.
Helton, who has full no-trade protection, indicated during the Red Sox talks that he would not accept an in-season deal. It's possible that's changed because the Rockies are struggling again, but he hasn't come out and suggested anything of the sort. Adding Fuentes to a Helton trade would be interesting, as it'd likely allow the Rockies to dump more of Helton's salary than they otherwise could hope for. Helton will be owed $73.5 million from 2008 through 2011. May. 24 - 12:18 pm et
Source: Denver Post
Why...it hasn't worked worth shit the past five years. Their world series were won on the back of the homegrown products...bring in Arod and the rest of the big contracts and they suck shit.
They are the anti bad-news bears. I say let them have every all star possible, it just insures they won't be in the world series.
Suck shit? Since their last WS win in 2000 they've won the AL East 6 straight times, been to the WS twice, and the ALCS.
How many teams can you say that about in the last 6 years? None. Yes they havn't broken through to win the big dance in awhile (if you call 6 years awhile, hello Boston going decades w/out winning until 04), but have still been more dominant then any other team in that stretch.
Baseball needs a cap to give other teams a chance to get in those spots the Yankees hog up every year in the postseason. Even if they're been losing in the WS, or ALCS or ALDS other teams need a chance too as the Yankees will always get there if there isn't a cap.
The Yankees havent been bad at all as fucnluc points out. But when you consider the payroll. .
I really think a cap of some kind needs to be looked into. But I know a die hard Yankee fan that flips out every time I mention it. (He believes that since the Yankees 'have so many fans' that they should enjoy the ability to spend more than anyone else.) Well they wouldnt have so many fans, if they hadnt built such an empire with their money.
The revenue sharing is a joke. It's pretty much the same thing as the luxury tax in the NBA but its not quite as penalizing.
I really think a cap of some kind needs to be looked into. But I know a die hard Yankee fan that flips out every time I mention it. (He believes that since the Yankees 'have so many fans' that they should enjoy the ability to spend more than anyone else.) Well they wouldnt have so many fans, if they hadnt built such an empire with their money.
The revenue sharing is a joke. It's pretty much the same thing as the luxury tax in the NBA but its not quite as penalizing.
RobFunk, I'm a die hard Yankees fan and see my post. I agree, there needs to be a salary cap to get baseball more competitive in the smaller markets 100%. Although I'll always love the Yankees, there was nothing like the 1996 team for me which battled and played with guts. To get that feeling back with all these overpayed, old, lazy roiders, I'll sacrifice bankroll any day of the week.
You'll never see me defending the Yankees spending, and I grew up in CT/NY my entire life. I think this holds true for more fans than you give credit too, I hear it on WFAN all the time. We're sick of it. I'd rather have a team like the Brewers right now who play with intensity and are young.
You'll never see me defending the Yankees spending, and I grew up in CT/NY my entire life. I think this holds true for more fans than you give credit too, I hear it on WFAN all the time. We're sick of it. I'd rather have a team like the Brewers right now who play with intensity and are young.
So you are of the opinion that spending all this money on free agents is indeed working for the Yankees rather than build some from within. I always thought the idea was to win championships. If you are happy being second best, congratulations. The Braves went on a nice run of winning Division championships too.
Your second point is a completely different argument. Don't know why you brought it up to refute my point that what the Yankees are doing is not working, because I define working as winning championships.
The Padres have won the National League West the past two years. Apparantly what they are doing works too in the eyes of Yankee Fans.
Second place is for losers.
Revenue sharing? salary cap? this coming from a Sox fan..?!?!?!?!?!
There's the Sox & Yankees...then there's everybody else...the Sox's revenue / salary is basically on a same level as the Yanks...yes, the Yanks are slightly higher basically due to the cable deal...but NESN's deal, isn't exactly chump change as well.
Its funny...as that used to be the trendy thing to say as a Sox fan, may have been true circa < 1999. But now try calling into WEEI or any other media forum...w/ ideas of salary cap/revenue sharing and they will quickly correct you.
Rob- MLB actually does have a form of 'salary cap'...where you pay a luxury tax if you go above that kep cap...and the Sox & Yankees BOTH have no problems paying the luxury tax...as they are volumes higher than the cap.
