How safe are the remaining books offshore?

When I first started playing off shore, I ALWAYS posted up via FedEx/Cashier's check. Played that way for YEARS until I finally broke down about 18 months ago and realized it was easier to move money with Neteller.

I think my first offshore post up was around 2000 football season. I posted up with FedEx/Cashiers Checks for the first 5 years. I didn't really think anything of it.

Now, Neteller has stolen my money. I barely got my money out of BOS before the melt down. And now I have a balance with Cascade that I'm not sure is really there or not. (At least they are still answering the phones and taking my bets! As long as they still answer the phones and take my bets, all is good imo. I am too scared to ask for a check...if they don't pay, I have to face reality and I don't want that. I honestly plan to lose the money eventually, but here lately, I can't lose a bet with Cascade.)

Sooooo...I don't even want to THINK about a college football season with locals. Office hours. Meetings for settle up. Low limits. No money lines. No half time lines. It's bullshit.

And of course, in my mind, I KNOW they get stiffed on credit balances from time to time. The post-up shops offshore don't have those concerns (or shouldn't). In my mind, a post-up shop ought to be able to pay more consistently than a local...I don't want my ability to collect resting on their ability to collect from the average american...not good. The average american is an absolute financial fuck-up, imo.

I am VERY tempted to post up with BoDog, BetJamaica, ThePig, Guardian, Hollywood, WSEX and 5Dimes again this season via cashier's check. All my friends think I'm nuts for even thinking about it. Me, on the other hand, I don't think I can make it through a football season WITHOUT the ease and convenience of the offshore books.

Any thoughts???? Are the offshore books doomed without Neteller????

PS: Anyone think there is a prayer Cascade will continue to take my baseball action until I can zero out? I only have about 10 units there, so I should be out pretty soon.

Later,
Books Worst Enemy

I'm playing at Oly and BJ, Wsex and MB, 5 Dimes, Nine and Bodog.

If Oly or Betjam go out, im done offshore.........

One things for sure, their getting their nuts squeezed well and proper on Baseball. Personally as a Book I would be very wary of laying the Best Price at the moment and if caught, hedge out at the Exchanges. Its 3 Months till some sort of respite for the Books, even then the Lines will be weak. Casulties no doubt but where is the enigma, using Matchbook for now is the best action. :thumbsup:

After the experience I had with Mansion, I don't think I'll EVER deal with an exchange again. If I want to get action down, I want to know my action is booked when I make the call.

I am certain I'll post up with the offshore books again. So far, I've only been cheated once by Neteller and the jury is still out on that one. As for Cascade, I have a feeling they'd get me paid, maybe slow if I ordered it now, but I have a lot of optimism when it comes to sportsbooks and their ability to make money.

Later,
Books Worst Enemy

only use a book that pays in a reasonable time. bodick takes your money quickly but pays very s l o w l y.

After the experience I had with Mansion

What happened? Software told you your bet was matched when it wasn't?

you got a 'man' in Austin? i believe that's where you're at last time i recall

careful there, about to hit post 666

Mr J,

No problems with Mansion or the software. Problem was, I'd make an offer and then sit there for hours wondering if anyone would take it. F_ that! Sportsbooks fulfill a role in society.

Rangers swept by BoSox today....Rangers are HORRIBLE this year. Worst year for Rangers baseball in 15 years. They are pathetic. One player on the team and that is Tex. Sosa hasn't done a thing since he came here. As usual, Rangers have no pitching. But without a batting rotation, they are worse than horrible this year.

So much for global warming. I think we are at 71 degrees in the middle of the day here in Dallas on Mem Weekend!!!

Later,
Books Worst Enemy

biffsnaked said:

This kid telling secrets of Bodog re. slow-pays is pretty explosive stuff. It's over at SBR. Peeps is now predicting tne end of what he calls the "Bodog Ponzi".

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Did a WU cashout on Friday.
Details came on Monday.
Picked up the cash on Tuesday.

I am very satisfied with Bodog.

Every and all books were not totally safe BEFORE neteller went down, so they can only have increased risk with the current environment.

Stay with books that existed before too many mickey mouse operations entered the market.

TwoCard said:

Did a WU cashout on Friday.
Details came on Monday.
Picked up the cash on Tuesday.

I am very satisfied with Bodog.

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you're looking for consistency and stability now. Western Union is slowly fading out as a funding option in several books and what happens when Bodog finally pulls the plug on this option? Their checks department has been anything but reliable, and this kid across the pond has been very convincing. Stay away from Bodog for the time being. Betjam, Oly, WSEX, 5dimes, and Cris are still very decent outs.

Remaining Boooks Offshore

Books Worst Enemy said:

After the experience I had with Mansion, I don't think I'll EVER deal with an exchange again. If I want to get action down, I want to know my action is booked when I make the call.

I am certain I'll post up with the offshore books again. So far, I've only been cheated once by Neteller and the jury is still out on that one. As for Cascade, I have a feeling they'd get me paid, maybe slow if I ordered it now, but I have a lot of optimism when it comes to sportsbooks and their ability to make money.

Later,
Books Worst Enemy

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I wish i had your optimism for Cascade. I think that ship has sunk or is hanging by it's liferope's:think2: