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Cheering ban costs five students their H.S. diplomas

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• 5 Students are still awaiting receipt of their high school diplomas
• Students and their parents had to sign a contract promising to act dignified
• Violators of the contract were warned they could be denied their diplomas


GALESBURG, Illinois (AP) -- Caisha Gayles graduated with honors last month, but she is still waiting for her diploma. The reason: the whoops of joy from the audience as she crossed the stage.
Gayles was one of five students denied diplomas from the lone public high school in Galesburg after enthusiastic friends or family members cheered for them during commencement.
About a month before the May 27 ceremony, Galesburg High students and their parents had to sign a contract promising to act in dignified way. Violators were warned they could be denied their diplomas and barred from the after-graduation party.
Many schools across the country ask spectators to hold applause and cheers until the end of graduation. But few of them enforce the policy with what some in Galesburg say are strong-arm tactics.
"It was like one of the worst days of my life," said Gayles, who had a 3.4 grade-point average and officially graduated, but does not have the keepsake diploma to hang on her wall. "You walk across the stage and then you can't get your diploma because of other people cheering for you. It was devastating, actually."
School officials in Galesburg, a working-class town of 34,000 that is still reeling from the 2004 shutdown of a 1,600-employee refrigerator factory, said the get-tough policy followed a 2005 commencement where hoots, hollers and even air horns drowned out much of the ceremony and nearly touched off fights in the audience when the unruly were asked to quiet down.
"Lots of parents complained that they could not hear their own child's name called," said Joel Estes, Galesburg's assistant superintendent. "And I think that led us to saying we have to do something about this to restore some dignity and honor to the ceremony so that everyone can appreciate it and enjoy it."
In Indianapolis, public school officials this year started kicking out parents and relatives who cheer. At one school, the superintendent interrupted last month's graduation to order police to remove a woman from the gymnasium.
"It's an important, solemn occasion. There's plenty of time for celebration before and after," said Clarke Campbell, president of the Indianapolis school board.
In Galesburg, the issue has taken on added controversy with accusations that the students were targeted because of their race: four are black and one is Hispanic. Parents say cheers also erupted for white students, and none of them was denied a diploma.
Principal Tom Chiles said administrators who monitored the more than 2,000-seat auditorium reported only disruptions they considered "significant," and all turned in the same five names.
"Race had absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever," Chiles said. "It is the amount of disruption at the time of the incident."
School officials said they will hear students and parents out if they appeal. Meanwhile, the school said the five students can still get their diplomas by completing eight hours of public service work, answering phones, sorting books or doing other chores for the district, situated about 150 miles southwest of Chicago.
Gayles' mother said she plans to fight the school board -- in court if necessary -- to get her daughter's diploma. The noise "was like three seconds. It was like, 'Yay,' and that was it," Carolyn Gayles said.
American Civil Liberties Union spokesman Edward Yohnka said Galesburg's policy raises no red flags as long as it is enforced equitably. "It's probably well within the school's ability to control the decorum at an event like this," he said.
Another student who was denied her diploma, Nadia Trent, said she will probably let the school keep it if her appeals fail.
"It's not fair. Somebody could not like me and just decide to yell to get me in trouble. I can't control everyone, just the ones I gave tickets to," Trent said.



http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/06/01/graduation.decorum.ap/index.html
 

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At first I thought this was ridiculous, but if parents and relatives from last year couldn't hear their own kid's name get called, then that is F'ed up as well.
 

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I have no problem with it. If my family knew about such a rule, you can be sure they would be silent. I bet you they won't be hootin and hollerin at next years graduation.
 

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At first I thought this was ridiculous, but if parents and relatives from last year couldn't hear their own kid's name get called, then that is F'ed up as well.

Yea but how can you actually tell who is cheering for who?

For example...if i was in HS and there was a kid I totally hated...what's to stop me from telling all my cousins to cheer for the other kid? Then that kid is fucked while his entire family was quiet.

It's fucking retarded. The easiest solution is for the Principal or whoever reads out the names to just pause for a second for cheers and then keep reading names after the cheers stop.
 

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Yea but how can you actually tell who is cheering for who?

For example...if i was in HS and there was a kid I totally hated...what's to stop me from telling all my cousins to cheer for the other kid? Then that kid is fucked while his entire family was quiet.

It's fucking retarded. The easiest solution is for the Principal or whoever reads out the names to just pause for a second for cheers and then keep reading names after the cheers stop.

100% agreed. That's how they did it when I graduated.
 

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Just look at the name and that explains everything. Just had the same problem last year at my nephews graduation. screamming like crazy and carrying on like idiots. No respect for the other kids or parents. Good for this school to try an stop that shit.
 

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Just look at the name and that explains everything. Just had the same problem last year at my nephews graduation. screamming like crazy and carrying on like idiots. No respect for the other kids or parents. Good for this school to try an stop that shit.

You should realize graduating from high school is probably a huge accomplishment for her family. It should be celebrated.
 

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good. fuck them. they sign a waiver that they will shut the fuck up and then they yell anyways. its bad enough at the movies...
 

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At first I thought this was ridiculous, but if parents and relatives from last year couldn't hear their own kid's name get called, then that is F'ed up as well.

If parents cant hear their own kids names, thta's the school officials fault. Why would they try to announce another name while there's still cheering goin on? Retarded
 

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Hmm. Could be easily solved by slowing down the program a few seconds between calling ea. students name.

Then again, its about time America stops hanging from the rim, and learns to control their emotions just a tad.
 

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THESE GOT ARRESTED



ADAM O'DANIEL
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Ryan Zimmerman knew that if he cheered for his younger brother during Fort Mill, S.C., High School's graduation ceremony last weekend, he'd be asked to leave.

It was a price he decided to pay.

But the 18-year-old Fort Mill grad never thought it would land him behind bars.

Zimmerman, Chris Coghill, 20, of Fort Mill, and Chandler Roberts, 20, of Charlotte were arrested on suspicion of public disorderly conduct during the ceremony at Winthrop Coliseum on Saturday, according to a Rock Hill police report. According to the report, the three men stood and cheered during the ceremony, then walked to the concourse and yelled again, causing a disruption.

The trio say they were unfairly targeted. Police say the group was being disruptive.

The incident underscores the tension that arises annually at graduation ceremonies as families celebrate a milestone and school officials work to make sure every name is heard. Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools has long urged restraint at the ceremonies.

Zimmerman said he and his friends knew cheers or interruptions were prohibited during the Fort Mill event but decided to disregard the rule after dozens of others cheered. Many groups stood, cheered then exited the building, Zimmerman said -- some by police escort, others by free will.

So he said that when his brother, Justin Zimmerman, reached the platform toward the end of the ceremony, the group stood up, walked to the front of their section and shouted, "You're my boy, Justin."

They tried to leave the arena as other cheering family members had done. But police detained them.

"There were whole families that would do it -- mom, dads -- then they'd walk out or be escorted out, but not arrested," said Zimmerman, a York Technical College student. "I just want my record clean. I'd hate to have a blemish from yelling at a high school graduation."

Roberts, a 2005 Fort Mill High graduate, said the three friends discussed whether they should stay quiet. "We were deciding the entire time and when we saw other people cheered and nothing happened to them we figured that meant it was OK for us to do it," Roberts said.

Zimmerman, Coghill and Roberts were released Saturday evening on $255 bond. They will appear in court June 19.

Lt. Jerry Waldrop of the Rock Hill Police Department said officers followed department policies. He said the school district hired police to provide security, and unruly individuals were subject to charges. The report is clear, he said, that the suspects were disruptive by calling out multiple times.

"They're lucky they didn't get charged with the high court offense of disturbing schools," Waldrop said. "They really haven't got a complaint."

Fort Mill school board Chairwoman Martha Kinard said the graduation policy isn't designed to discourage support, but to make sure each graduate receives equal recognition.

"When someone yells out, the next person in line, their family can't hear," Kinard said. "It's a matter of respect."
 

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Just look at the name and that explains everything. Just had the same problem last year at my nephews graduation. screamming like crazy and carrying on like idiots. No respect for the other kids or parents. Good for this school to try an stop that shit.

Nice stereotype... I have heard some dumb white trash hillbilly’s yelling yeeeehaaaw at a few graduations myself so I doubt that his has anything to do with race...

White or black people get excited to see there kid graduate... Just another example of a something that supposed to be a great time in someone’s life beign ruled by an idiotic rule…
 

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as far as pausing for a few seconds, here in s flor we have some schools with 6,000 kids in them. so that means 1500 seniors. i was at a graduation last yr that took over 5 hours. way, way to long.
 

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There is a classy way of doing things and then there is the other side.

I have witnessed this kinda stuff...rightside is correct in what he says.

It is done strictly for attention by the people acting this way.

No need for hootin and hollerin during a ceremony like this.

Show some fn class.
 

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When and if my kid makes it to 12th grade and graduates I will yell and scream as loud as I want, its been a long road and I think I have earned to right to yell as well as my tax dollars the past ohhh so many years have paid for that right too.
 

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Thats the gayest and lamest rule Ive ever heard .... Rightside and Whale probably are the Principal and Vice Principal of the school ...
 

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