-1 favorite lines for dummies

Illini · Jun 21, 2007

If -1 is a favorite........Unit size/(RL decimal +1) Bet this amount to win on the ML and risk this amount on the RL

For example, your unit size is $50, and the best you can find on the -1.5 is +130. 50/2.3=21.74........so you risk $21.74 on the RL, and bet to win $21.74 on the ML. The two bets can be at different books, depending on who has the best line for both.

Friends don't let friends bet the -1 line at Pinnacle. They will rip you off 3 cents every time, and that is just using their own lines, and not shopping both the ML and the -1.5 around. This is an easy shortcut that eliminates almost all the math.

Illini · Jun 21, 2007

If -1 is a dog, it's Unit size/(ML decimal +1)=ML bet amount

Example: Cardinals are -125 -1.5 +160 unit size $50
50/1.8=27.78
Bet $27.78 on the ML
Bet what the ML wins on the RL= $22.22

But most people use -1 to take large favorites, so the dog scenario will not come into play that often for most.

Nolockshere · Jun 21, 2007

Take a look at Bet365 lines.

Toronto -1.5 +145
Toronto -1 -125

Cubs -1.5 +115
Cubs -1 -120

Seattle -1.5 +100
Seattle -1 -171

WTF!!!!What a rip off.

Preussen · Jun 21, 2007

No locks here said:
Take a look at Bet365 lines.

Toronto -1.5 +145
Toronto -1 -125

Cubs -1.5 +115
Cubs -1 -120

Seattle -1.5 +100
Seattle -1 -171

WTF!!!!What a rip off.

Not that I doubt it's a rip-off but could you, please, at least post the ML as well? Without knowing the MLs there's no way to know how good or bad the -1 lines are.

cisco · Jun 21, 2007

Cubs ML -120 RL -1.5 +131 -1 +102

Put 45.25 on ML (risk 54.30)
Put 45.25 on RL -1.5 to win 59.28

54.30
45.25
99.25 Risk

59.28
45.25
104.53 Win

Risk 99.55 to win 104.53

Illini · Jun 23, 2007

Bump. People are asking about the easiest way to do this in other threads. This is the easiest way.

Unit size/(RL decimal +1) This is for when the -1 is going to be a favorite. Very, very easy. Just look at the run line, make one division problem, and you're done.

HatTrick · Jun 23, 2007

this should be stickied somewhere or somethin...seems like it keeps being asked every couple of weeks. thanks for posting illini.

Illini · Jun 23, 2007

No locks here said:
Take a look at Bet365 lines.

Toronto -1.5 +145
Toronto -1 -125

Cubs -1.5 +115
Cubs -1 -120

Seattle -1.5 +100
Seattle -1 -171

WTF!!!!What a rip off.

That is ugly. Yet, I'm sure many people bet it, just like many people talk about how they love the -1 line at Pinnacle.

Illini · Jun 23, 2007

HatTrick said:
this should be stickied somewhere or somethin...seems like it keeps being asked every couple of weeks. thanks for posting illini.

No problem. :toast:

SkinsRaj28 · Jun 23, 2007

HatTrick said:
this should be stickied somewhere or somethin...seems like it keeps being asked every couple of weeks. thanks for posting illini.

Agreed. This really should be stickied.

FatTony · Jun 23, 2007

Is it really worth it to lay a run? Isn't it taking about 10% of your wins on the money line and turning them into pushes? Kind of offsets saving the juice.

Illini · Jun 23, 2007

Fat Tony said:
Is it really worth it to lay a run? Isn't it taking about 10% of your wins on the money line and turning them into pushes? Kind of offsets saving the juice.

It's all personal preference. It sure saves a lot of money when your -180 home favorite goes down. And it avoids the sick feeling of seeing your team win but not cover the RL, when you lay the 1.5. I'm sure it all evens out over the course of a season, if you just bet the ML or RL. But I personally love betting -1, if I like a heavy favorite at home. That's the only time I do it. Since most of us do this recreationally, I think it's a better bet than -1.5. If your team is losing and batting in the bottom of the 9th, you can enjoy a walkoff single, and the push feels like a win. You don't have to hope for the miracle 3-run walk off HR.

austintx05 · Mar 30, 2008

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Mr.Smith · Mar 30, 2008

manufacturing -1 lines does not make any sense at all.

suppose someone want to bet Atlanta tomorrow.

line is -150 or -1.5 +145.suppose he has 5 books funded and checks around and all 5 books have the run line at +145, but one of his books has Atlanta -140. instead of manufacturing a -1 line, he would be much better off just taking the -140, even if he intended at first to play the run line.

smartz · Mar 30, 2008

Mr. Smith said:
manufacturing -1 lines does not make any sense at all.

suppose someone want to bet Atlanta tomorrow.

line is -150 or -1.5 +145.suppose he has 5 books funded and checks around and all 5 books have the run line at +145, but one of his books has Atlanta -140. instead of manufacturing a -1 line, he would be much better off just taking the -140, even if he intended at first to play the run line.

why? The whole idea behind the -1 line is to lessen risk while not being able to lose 1 run games.

Greenleaf2487 · Mar 30, 2008

great stuff just was about to looks into this def gettin bookmarked

krk1030 · Mar 30, 2008

I think it's better to just play the RL if you don't want the ML. In the long run its the better option IMO.

Uno · Mar 30, 2008

dsethi you just fill in the dark grey areas. and then you fill in the amount you want to win and it tells you how much to wager on each line.

Mr.Smith · Mar 30, 2008

you dont reduce juice by betting -1 or -1.5, you just pay it in a different way.

if you like Yankees for instance and they are -220, if you have 5 books and they all say yankees -220 and you head over to say matchbook with their reduced juice and they have yankees -200, bet the -200. if you dont like it -200, you shouldnt be on it at all. betting the runline of say -1.5 -110 is the square way to bet it. you still pay the juice because you have to win by 2 runs and only get 8 at bats ( if yankees are home) to the other teams 9