I had no idea the Giants gave up Liriano and Nathan for Pierzinski

Illini · Jun 23, 2007

They're talking about that trade now. One year of AJ for that? That's gotta be the worst trade of all-time.

dmmd98 · Jun 23, 2007

Also gave up Boof Bonser who is in the Twins starting staff.

fucnluc · Jun 23, 2007

Don't forget Boof Bonser. Far from anything special, but he's ate some innings for the Twin's over the last 2 years.

Edit: Beaten like a misbehaving wife.

anpyanks · Jun 23, 2007

has to be one of the worst deals in mlb history...

primetime21+ · Jun 23, 2007

Nathan had one good year as a reliever. Every year there are about 20 relievers who pitch that well, then end up sucking.

Liriano was a great prospect, but look at how lincecum has pitched so far this year and how many top pitching prospects turn into busts. And lets not forget that Liriano is out of the season with elbow problems. Not a good sign for a young pitcher.

Boof bonser has a 4.5 ERA this year and is 26 years old already.

That trade was only horrible if you are results oriented.

fucnluc · Jun 23, 2007

IMO, Mets would have cruised (or had a better shot) at the WS title last year if they hadn't traded Scott Kazmir for VICTOR ZAMBRANO in 2004.

Rev_Al · Jun 23, 2007

its amazing to look at past deals...and the current SF lineup...and Brian Sabean still holds a job as Giants' GM.

I mean...he hasent been able to get one bat to give Bonds any cusion.

SF fans...does this guy get criticized at all?

Illini · Jun 23, 2007

primetime21 said:
Nathan had one good year as a reliever. Every year there are about 20 relievers who pitch that well, then end up sucking.

Liriano was a great prospect, but look at how lincecum has pitched so far this year and how many top pitching prospects turn into busts. And lets not forget that Liriano is out of the season with elbow problems. Not a good sign for a young pitcher.

Boof bonser has a 4.5 ERA this year and is 26 years old already.

That trade was only horrible if you are results oriented.

Did you just compare Liriano to Linecum?

Addict101 · Jun 23, 2007

Illini said:
Did you just compare Liriano to Linecum?

Wow...

Illini · Jun 23, 2007

primetime21 said:
Nathan had one good year as a reliever. Every year there are about 20 relievers who pitch that well, then end up sucking.

Liriano was a great prospect, but look at how lincecum has pitched so far this year and how many top pitching prospects turn into busts. And lets not forget that Liriano is out of the season with elbow problems. Not a good sign for a young pitcher.

Boof bonser has a 4.5 ERA this year and is 26 years old already.

That trade was only horrible if you are results oriented.

I guess I hear what you're saying, in that they had no idea that Liriano was gonna be that good. But AJ only had one year left, and they gave up a motherload of potential for a rent-a-player.

anpyanks · Jun 23, 2007

primetime21 said:
Nathan had one good year as a reliever. Every year there are about 20 relievers who pitch that well, then end up sucking.

Liriano was a great prospect, but look at how lincecum has pitched so far this year and how many top pitching prospects turn into busts. And lets not forget that Liriano is out of the season with elbow problems. Not a good sign for a young pitcher.

Boof bonser has a 4.5 ERA this year and is 26 years old already.

That trade was only horrible if you are results oriented.

nathan only one good year??? try the guy has dominated since he was traded to minny... here are his numbers for minnesota...<TABLE class=player_stats cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>

2006
</TD><TD align=left>

MIN
</TD><TD>

68.1
</TD><TD>

0
</TD><TD>

7
</TD><TD>

0
</TD><TD>

36
</TD><TD>

95
</TD><TD>

16
</TD><TD>

38
</TD><TD>

1.586
</TD><TD>

0.793
</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=left>MIN</TD><TD>70.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>94</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>2.700</TD><TD>0.971</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=left>MIN</TD><TD>72.1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>1.623</TD><TD>0.985</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Timetopay · Jun 23, 2007

anpyanks said:
nathan only one good year??? try the guy has dominated since he was traded to minny... here are his numbers for minnesota...<TABLE class=player_stats cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>

2006

</TD><TD align=left>

MIN

</TD><TD>

68.1

</TD><TD>

0

</TD><TD>

7

</TD><TD>

0

</TD><TD>

36

</TD><TD>

95

</TD><TD>

16

</TD><TD>

38

</TD><TD>

1.586

</TD><TD>

0.793

</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=left>MIN</TD><TD>70.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>94</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>2.700</TD><TD>0.971</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=left>MIN</TD><TD>72.1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>1.623</TD><TD>0.985</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Just about to post that. Just horrible baseball knowledge to say one good year with three whips under 1

primetime21+ · Jun 23, 2007

anpyanks said:
nathan only one good year??? try the guy has dominated since he was traded to minny... here are his numbers for minnesota...<table class="player_stats" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="center"><td align="left">

2006
</td><td align="left">

MIN
</td><td>

68.1
</td><td>

0
</td><td>

7
</td><td>

0
</td><td>

36
</td><td>

95
</td><td>

16
</td><td>

38
</td><td>

1.586
</td><td>

0.793
</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="center"><td align="left">2005</td><td align="left">MIN</td><td>70.0</td><td>0</td><td>7</td><td>4</td><td>43</td><td>94</td><td>22</td><td>46</td><td>2.700</td><td>0.971</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="center"><td align="left">2004</td><td align="left">MIN</td><td>72.1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>2</td><td>44</td><td>89</td><td>23</td><td>48</td><td>1.623</td><td>0.985</td></tr></tbody></table>

I was referring to before he was traded. But thanks for pointing out the obvious.

Illini · Jun 23, 2007

anpyanks said:
nathan only one good year??? try the guy has dominated since he was traded to minny... here are his numbers for minnesota...<TABLE class=player_stats cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>

2006

</TD><TD align=left>

MIN

</TD><TD>

68.1

</TD><TD>

0

</TD><TD>

7

</TD><TD>

0

</TD><TD>

36

</TD><TD>

95

</TD><TD>

16

</TD><TD>

38

</TD><TD>

1.586

</TD><TD>

0.793

</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD align=left>MIN</TD><TD>70.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>43</TD><TD>94</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>2.700</TD><TD>0.971</TD></TR><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=left>MIN</TD><TD>72.1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>89</TD><TD>23</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>1.623</TD><TD>0.985</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

He must have been talking about his numbers before being traded.

primetime21+ · Jun 23, 2007

Addict101 said:
Wow...

Yeah, lincecum is healthy and Liriano is coming off elbow surgery after his first full year in the majors.

Lincecum was one of the top pitching prospects in baseball coming into this year and has not had his elbow opened up.

anpyanks · Jun 23, 2007

primetime21 said:
I was referring to before he was traded. But thanks for pointing out the obvious.

not trying to be a dick but u said he had ONE good year, did u mean one good year in sf because here is his line the year before getting<TABLE class=player_stats cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=bg2 vAlign=center align=right height=17><TD align=left>

2003
</TD><TD align=left>SF</TD><TD>79.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>51</TD><TD>2.962</TD><TD>1.063</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

those are great numbers for a reliever, sf fucked up big time with this deal... for a one year guy if they traded nathan himself that wouldve been plenty...

anpyanks · Jun 23, 2007

primetime21 said:
Yeah, lincecum is healthy and Liriano is coming off elbow surgery after his first full year in the majors.

Lincecum was one of the top pitching prospects in baseball coming into this year and has not had his elbow opened up.

i love lincecum by the way, think he is a definite future cy younger, just going through a tough stretch... lets no forget cole hamels went through a similiar stretch last year and ended great and he is a cy young candidate this year...

Illini · Jun 23, 2007

Pierzinski signed with the White Sox as a free agent, right? Pretty sure he wasn't traded again. Surely I'm wrong, no? If he had only one year left on his deal, that trade is grounds for immediate firing.

primetime21+ · Jun 23, 2007

anpyanks said:
not trying to be a dick but u said he had ONE good year, did u mean one good year in sf because here is his line the year before getting<table class="player_stats" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="center"><td align="left">

2003
</td><td align="left">SF</td><td>79.0</td><td>0</td><td>12</td><td>4</td><td>0</td><td>83</td><td>33</td><td>51</td><td>2.962</td><td>1.063</td></tr></tbody></table>

those are great numbers for a reliever, sf fucked up big time with this deal... for a one year guy if they traded nathan himself that wouldve been plenty...

Dude, your post is funny on so many levels.

Rev_Al · Jun 23, 2007

correct-

the white sox re-signed AJ to a three year deal in 2005, for like $15 mill.

I had no idea the Giants gave up Liriano and Nathan for Pierzinski

FreeRyanFerguson.com

Member

morally bankrupt

New member

New member

morally bankrupt

The Rev

FreeRyanFerguson.com

New member

FreeRyanFerguson.com

New member

Old School

New member

FreeRyanFerguson.com

New member

New member

New member

FreeRyanFerguson.com

New member

The Rev

Forum statistics

Share this page